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Why Would You Worship?
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RE: Why Would You Worship?
(August 12, 2015 at 5:31 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(August 12, 2015 at 4:20 pm)Shuffle Wrote: Then why wouldn't Christians go around and kill children? Put them out of their misery and get rid of the possibility they would sin later in life and end up in hell.
Some immature Christians might do just that, and that's likely why the doctrine isn't given with more certainty. For me, and I daresay most Christians who hold to this doctrine, we don't do that because God doesn't want us to. As noted earlier, I worship god because of the good things he's done for me, including giving me children. I accordingly respond by trying to obey him...not by trying to get around his will on a technicality.

I'm not big on the personal relationship jargon, as it isn't expressly in the Bible and I think it gets too much play and has become somewhat trite. But, there is truth to it. You guys don't see the relationship, you just see rules and formulas.
Why would't he want that? If you did that it would be part of his plan. Because he knows everything, he knew you would end up killing children, and that is why he created you under your certain circumstances.
(August 12, 2015 at 5:39 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(August 12, 2015 at 4:47 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: Indeed, if all children went to heaven, it would be grossly irresponsible to let any one of them reach an age when they might make a mistake and get condemned to hell.  Letting them live is giving them the opportunity for damnation.  Sending them straight to heaven would be doing them a favor.  If, that is, it were true that children who died went to heaven.

But what we have here is someone pretending to believe something, when they do not really believe it.  In this, as in most other cases, actions speak louder than words.  Parents who risk their children's immortal souls do not really love their children, when it would be so easy for them to be sent to heaven instead.

First, you're extremely sick if you think it would be "so easy" to kill anyone, let alone your own children.

Second, if my ancestors had done that, I wouldn't be here. Is it grossly irresponsible to deny potentially hundreds or thousands of generations of people life in order to secure heaven for one? Do you know waht the first command in the bible is? It's to be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth.
It would be easy if I KNEW they would be in a "better place." I would send all the children in the world if I knew they would be able to live forever in complete bliss and happiness. You said yourself that god killed a bunch of children because he knew they would go to heaven anyway.
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Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 3, 2015 at 3:08 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Neo-Scholastic - August 3, 2015 at 8:38 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Nope - August 3, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 3, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Aoi Magi - August 3, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 3, 2015 at 3:52 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Aoi Magi - August 3, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Pyrrho - August 3, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Aoi Magi - August 3, 2015 at 4:26 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by zebo-the-fat - August 3, 2015 at 9:19 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by robvalue - August 3, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Nope - August 3, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Aoi Magi - August 3, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 4, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by vorlon13 - August 3, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by robvalue - August 3, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by FreeTony - August 3, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by robvalue - August 3, 2015 at 2:48 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by vorlon13 - August 3, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Salacious B. Crumb - August 3, 2015 at 5:24 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Minimalist - August 3, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 3, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Longhorn - August 3, 2015 at 6:18 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by vorlon13 - August 3, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Godschild - August 3, 2015 at 10:15 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by dyresand - August 3, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Minimalist - August 3, 2015 at 10:18 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by dyresand - August 3, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by KevinM1 - August 3, 2015 at 11:42 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Drich - August 4, 2015 at 9:44 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 4, 2015 at 4:12 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Drich - August 6, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Neo-Scholastic - August 7, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 7, 2015 at 1:34 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Drich - August 7, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 7, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 7, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Drich - August 8, 2015 at 10:05 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Nope - August 4, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Drich - August 7, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 7, 2015 at 7:51 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 8, 2015 at 3:12 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 8, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 8, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 9, 2015 at 7:46 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Pyrrho - August 9, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 9, 2015 at 7:44 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 10, 2015 at 6:45 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 10, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 11, 2015 at 6:43 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 11, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 11, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Pyrrho - August 11, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Drich - August 9, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Drich - August 9, 2015 at 11:24 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Nay_Sayer - August 9, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 10, 2015 at 8:01 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 12, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 12, 2015 at 4:20 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Pyrrho - August 12, 2015 at 4:47 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 12, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 12, 2015 at 6:04 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 12, 2015 at 5:31 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 13, 2015 at 12:51 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 13, 2015 at 6:31 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 13, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 14, 2015 at 5:35 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 14, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 14, 2015 at 2:41 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 14, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by John V - August 14, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Shuffle - August 14, 2015 at 3:01 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 22, 2015 at 8:50 pm
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by robvalue - August 14, 2015 at 2:54 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Ayen - August 19, 2015 at 9:50 am
RE: Why Would You Worship? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 22, 2015 at 8:53 pm

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