Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 24, 2025, 8:56 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Problems with Christian Church
#23
RE: Problems with Christian Church
(August 20, 2015 at 12:15 pm)jiffy Wrote:
(August 20, 2015 at 10:23 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: If churches want tax exempt status, they should be required to do a certain amount of secular charity work that benefits the public each year (fundraisers for church needs/projects don't count, and missionary work does not count).


The missionary work is a tough one because a lot of modern-day mission work is charity work that includes some sharing of Christian beliefs. Would you simply prohibit any sharing of beliefs in order to qualify for tax-exempt status? Historically, a lot of mission work has been very beneficial to other cultures. For example, William Carey's mission work in India helped end the practice of Sati, the burning of widows.

If you wanna yammer about Jesus while you're handing out trays at a soup kitchen or rebuilding disaster-damaged houses, be my guest. What I'm basically saying is that churches should be required to provide volunteer work and/or other kinds of material service to the general public if they want to be tax exempt. Providing Religious services to people who believe they are helpful is not a material service to the general public. If they want to use the same public services I do without having to pay taxes for them, they should be benefitting society (if not me directly) in some measurable fashion that affects people other than the members of their church. As for Sati, using religion to fight another religion is a very arguable form of the term "charity."
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Problems with Christian Church - by jiffy - August 19, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by vorlon13 - August 19, 2015 at 7:32 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 7:33 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by jiffy - August 19, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 20, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Angrboda - August 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Whateverist - August 21, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 19, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Ayen - August 19, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Jenny A - August 19, 2015 at 9:06 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by *Deidre* - August 19, 2015 at 9:12 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Minimalist - August 19, 2015 at 10:05 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Redbeard The Pink - August 19, 2015 at 10:33 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by The Valkyrie - August 19, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Alex K - August 19, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by jiffy - August 19, 2015 at 11:43 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Jenny A - August 20, 2015 at 1:00 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Redbeard The Pink - August 20, 2015 at 10:23 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by jiffy - August 20, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Redbeard The Pink - August 20, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 20, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Kingpin - August 20, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Redbeard The Pink - August 20, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Jenny A - August 20, 2015 at 5:19 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by LastPoet - August 20, 2015 at 12:51 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 11:49 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Ayen - August 20, 2015 at 12:46 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Minimalist - August 20, 2015 at 1:30 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by drfuzzy - August 20, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Minimalist - August 20, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Kingpin - August 20, 2015 at 1:56 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Longhorn - August 20, 2015 at 1:49 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Minimalist - August 20, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 20, 2015 at 2:48 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 20, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 20, 2015 at 9:39 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 21, 2015 at 4:37 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Longhorn - August 21, 2015 at 5:10 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Iroscato - August 21, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 20, 2015 at 8:57 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 20, 2015 at 9:40 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 20, 2015 at 10:05 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 20, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 21, 2015 at 12:57 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 21, 2015 at 2:18 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by drfuzzy - August 21, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Fake Messiah - August 20, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by The Valkyrie - August 20, 2015 at 9:43 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 21, 2015 at 2:06 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 21, 2015 at 2:21 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 21, 2015 at 3:34 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 21, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 21, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 21, 2015 at 10:32 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 21, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Homeless Nutter - August 22, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 22, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by vorlon13 - August 22, 2015 at 9:33 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Lemonvariable72 - August 21, 2015 at 2:23 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Minimalist - August 21, 2015 at 2:34 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 21, 2015 at 3:01 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 21, 2015 at 10:06 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Bob Kelso - August 21, 2015 at 4:00 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 21, 2015 at 6:11 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 21, 2015 at 6:15 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 21, 2015 at 6:26 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 23, 2015 at 3:25 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 23, 2015 at 9:34 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Redbeard The Pink - August 24, 2015 at 12:00 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Esquilax - August 24, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Lemonvariable72 - August 24, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 24, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 24, 2015 at 3:27 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 24, 2015 at 5:53 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by dyresand - August 24, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 24, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 25, 2015 at 3:07 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 25, 2015 at 4:24 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 28, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 25, 2015 at 4:43 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 25, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 6:15 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 25, 2015 at 6:17 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by rexbeccarox - August 25, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Longhorn - August 25, 2015 at 6:36 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 25, 2015 at 6:43 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Longhorn - August 25, 2015 at 6:22 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 28, 2015 at 8:42 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 28, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 29, 2015 at 9:19 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 7:19 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by rexbeccarox - August 25, 2015 at 7:21 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 7:23 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by dyresand - August 25, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Whateverist - August 25, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by rexbeccarox - August 25, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by ForsakenHeretic - August 25, 2015 at 8:43 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2015 at 9:21 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 26, 2015 at 3:59 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by MTL - August 26, 2015 at 5:06 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 29, 2015 at 9:36 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 29, 2015 at 9:57 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 29, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 29, 2015 at 10:38 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 29, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 29, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 29, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 29, 2015 at 2:39 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Church sex abuse: Thousands of paedophiles in French Church zebo-the-fat 8 2025 October 7, 2021 at 1:49 am
Last Post: Rev. Rye
  How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian? KUSA 371 114714 May 3, 2020 at 1:04 am
Last Post: Paleophyte
  The other problems with Noahs ark dyresand 27 6967 April 7, 2017 at 7:40 pm
Last Post: TheoneandonlytrueGod
  Church of England vs Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints vorlon13 13 4902 April 3, 2017 at 1:48 pm
Last Post: vorlon13
  Yet more christian logic: christian sues for not being given a job she refuses to do. Esquilax 21 8722 July 20, 2014 at 2:48 pm
Last Post: ThomM
  God healing the amputee and other world problems xr34p3rx 39 12895 January 10, 2014 at 4:45 pm
Last Post: xr34p3rx
  All the problems with Christianity Avodaiah 194 52568 December 19, 2013 at 11:23 am
Last Post: The Reality Salesman01
  As a christian, how did you handle the problems with the Tower of Babel? Brakeman 51 21871 November 22, 2013 at 5:45 pm
Last Post: Doubting Thomas
  Christian Minister responsible for thousands leaving the church Kayenneh 39 14509 July 26, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Last Post: Faith No More
  Church update:children's church k2490 15 11741 June 26, 2013 at 7:59 am
Last Post: Rahul



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)