(August 21, 2015 at 1:03 am)Randy Carson Wrote:(August 21, 2015 at 12:32 am)Jenny A Wrote: Sorry, you have no right to flaunt the rules of scholarship and copyright because people tune you out. It is dishonest and a kind of theft. The right to speak is not the right to make people listen. You may think your message is of ultimate importance but others don't.
(August 21, 2015 at 12:33 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: We so often hear the old lament .. how can you be moral without God? Randy here makes me wonder if anyone who claims to do the lord's work can be moral. Randy obviously is of the ends justifies the means school. We should just be thankful if he only applies that ethic to make believe stuff. But you can't help but wonder how this sort protects their integrity.
(August 21, 2015 at 12:34 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: There's a reason for that which has been explained and demonstrated to you. If your best response is plagiarism to get people to listen, that's worse than just dishonest. It's morally reprehensible.
Tell you what...I will mull this over. Maybe you're right and I'm wrong.
I appreciate your views, but I'm also conscious of the fact that y'all will say just about anything to get one up on me. You do it to Huggy, to Catholic_Lady...it's how you roll.
However, I've already posted a question at CAF on this topic, and I will be watching for a consensus from the forum members there. You can monitor that here.
If it appears that you're correct and my view is in the minority, I'm man enough to admit it.
I'll keep you posted in the next few days.
Thank you for mulling it over.
I followed your link. You posed a one on one conversion scenario by email. It would be wrong to plagiarize in that context but not nearly so wrong as it is to do it in public forum. Plagiarism is primarily a journalist's, writer's, academic's, or student's crime. The victim is twofold: first the person who's ideas are being taken without attribution; and only second those fooled into thinking the ideas are those of the plagiarizer. Whether the plagiarizer makes money by his actions is not really relevant. The breadth of the audience is, as is whether the plagiarizer is attempting to falsely obtain credentials such as a degree.
I like to think that the CAF forum will recognize wrong doing when they see it. However, make no mistake that plagiarism is against the rules of this forum and if you persist here, you will be banned here.
For your own personal information, I would add that if you actually violate copyright law (rather narrower than plagiarism), the writer can sue the pants off you.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.