Where is heaven located? Also, why does God care about homo sapiens?

[The Grand Nudger]

I'll type slow so you can understand.

You know, no matter how slow you type, the post just gets thrown up all at once....so....

I think of the Earth as being in beta.  Sort of like a test run for the real thing.  I think of God as being more like a scientist than a magic man in the sky with the ability to snap his or her fingers and create life.  He or she didn't say "Let there be light!" and then there was light.  I can't explain how it would work.  Maybe there was a "Universe in a pack" kit.  "Just add life"  With a bit of tinkering, you get different life forms.

I'm not asking you to explain how any of it -actually- works..frankly, I know that you can't.   I already understood that you consider this life a test, my posts have been referencing that belief explicitly and frequently, not that I mind you restating...it's just not something that there's any misunderstanding between us on.  

Now, if there's an afterlife (I happen to think there is.  Might just be fucking wishful thinking on my part, but I'm fine with wishful thinking) then I'd presume that the afterlife is Earth 2.0.  All of the data organisms collect for god to analyze, and then create a perfect world.  

Yeah, I got that, again nothing we have a misunderstanding over.  

Any animals I gave as an example weren't so much a list that I would think get into heaven, so much as a list of random animals I gave as an example.  Personally I believe this creator is likely somewhat benevolent, and has the ability to reason much like humans do.  But that's just my guess.  I mean to some "higher numbers = better", but that's certainly not always the case.  Armies with more people in it don't always win, for example.  Humans seem to have this sense of curiosity that such a creator would also likely have (why else create a fucking universe?)  

I'm not sure your reasoning is all that solid here regarding what a god is like, but still....I understood that you believed all of this already, you've already stated it.  I'm much more interested, personally, with -why- you believe that a god would share some human trait, and which human traits a god would share.  Why create a universe....IDK?  Why do spiders make webs?  Perhaps god is a hungry, hungry entity - this might explain why our planet is such a meat-grinder.  I'm sure that we could hammer out many answers to that question, but honestly, that's not the thing that interests me most, the thing that I've been attempting to discuss.

I didn't sit out and reason out each animal.  "Yeah, we'll add cats.  We'll add dogs.  But not Cows.  Beef is good, but let's be honest.  They were in on those fucking Chic Filet Commercials, and that's just inexcusable."  Instead I listed animals that came to mind that are reasonably well liked vs animals that are reasonably disliked and cause problems.  Just as an example of how god might reason things out.  I'm not god obviously (or if I am, I don't know it).  I can't predict how a god I don't know exists or not would react because I don't have a 2000 year old book explaining it to me.  I wouldn't even try.  I was only giving an example of how the fuck it might work.  There's nothing set in stone.

Again, no misunderstanding there, it's very clear that you didn't reason out the animals, and yet there's a list (despite your waffling)- a guess at a list, a guess that there might even be something like a list.  Pass/fail conditions, as for a test - which you believe in, as you've repeatedly said.

It's the notion that there's a list, what those pass/fail conditions might be, precisely -what- you feel comfortable guessing at and what the fabric of those guesses turns out to be that I was hoping to have a discussion about. Is, for example, "reasonably well liked" a metric upon which Earth 2.0 is based, in part?  Is "causing problems" another?  These both, and your representatives for both..seem decidedly human, and not very divine.  Even limited just to human beings, lions cause plenty of problems (that's why we killed so many).  So it isn't even so much generally human as it is specific...to you.  This is what I'm referring to when I ask about the consistency of these metrics -even as guesses....or even whether or not some metric -could be- consistent across all of life, all of earth, all of time.....and whether we're actually discussing how a god might do all of this...or how you would, and whether or not what you would do means anything in context, whether it's informative.

I'd offer to retype all of that slowly, so that you might understand......but it won't make a difference.....will it? Would you like to have that discussion...or would you like to continue to tell us about how you can't explain what no ones asked you to explain? How you don't know whether or not your guesses are accurate. We already understand that, trust me. You may not be able to explain, you may not know...but you believe these things, however, and I presume you have -some- reason or explanation for -that-? These beliefs come from somewhere, from something - and that's what I've been asking you about. You;re under no obligation here to demonstrate or prove that anything you believe is true. I'm just wondering about the process which led you to holding these beliefs, to ordering the list (that does/doesn't exist) as you did.

Lets start with something singular, something easy to manage. You believe that a god might value things in a similar manner that you/we do, you believe that value or relative value is something a god is even aware of, regardless of where it puts what on it's value list, judging from your comments. -Why- do you believe this?