(September 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Godschild wrote:
I take it very personally when someone says Hitler was a Christian doing what Christians believe is right, when only a few and very few Christians believed that the Jews were bad for mankind before the theory of natural selection. There were more Christians who believed this after the theory of natural selection, wrongly believing, the Bible never calls for such a thing and the NT actually teaches otherwise. So we have supposed Christians and people like Hitler using the theory for their own agenda, falsely using it I might add, so both sides of this Hitler thing should be denouncing Hitler for what he was, an evil murderer finding false excuses to justify his delusion.
GC
With regard to the part of your quote I bolded, are you serious?!? Have you ever read anything about European history? News flash: Christian anti-Semitism and Christian persecution of Jews was alive and well long before the 19th Century. Long before! Don't lay that shit at Darwin's feet. Hell, to take but one of myriad examples one could mention, Martin Luther was a foaming-at-the-mouth Jew hater of the first order. There are passages in his works that wouldn't have been at all out of place in Mein Kampf.
I take it very personally when someone piously whitewashes history to make his religion look better than it really was. Mass killings, pogroms, forced conversions, theft of property, mob actions (and most of it blessed by the religious leaders of the day) . . . the list goes on and on and lasted for centuries before Charles Darwin was a twinkle in his father's eye. But you think it took the theory of natural selection to bring things to a head? Get real.
I didn't whitewash anything, you read into my statement what you wanted to see just to extend an argument, what a small childish thing for you to do. I actually eliminated Darwin from Hitler's deluded ideas and brought supposed Christians into the realm of guilt, but only a blind bigoted idiot couldn't see what was written. I'm fully aware of past Christian atrocities as well as the atrocities of atheist and other religious groups, actually the whole of mankind, like the Bible says no one is good not one.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.