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[TheRocketSurgeon]

My whole point here is this, Hitler bastardized Christianity and the theory of evolution to gain what he and the leading people in Germany believed, that they were superior and the destruction of the Jews was justified in their deluded bastardization of both. So my original statement is true, without these details. There is an enormous amount of information about how Hitler and his cronies believed incorrectly that the theory of evolution ie. natural selection and Christianity gave him the right to exterminate the Jews.
Now if you are as smart as you say you are I think I've given you enough to at least look into this and I hope you will. I take it very personally when someone says Hitler was a Christian doing what Christians believe is right, when only a few and very few Christians believed that the Jews were bad for mankind before the theory of natural selection. There were more Christians who believed this after the theory of natural selection, wrongly believing, the Bible never calls for such a thing and the NT actually teaches otherwise. So we have supposed Christians and people like Hitler using the theory for their own agenda, falsely using it I might add, so both sides of this Hitler thing should be denouncing Hitler for what he was, an evil murderer finding false excuses to justify his delusion.

GC

(Emphasis mine.)

I agree with you entirely, and yes, I was aware of their misuse of Social Darwinism (which as a concept has a list of errors so long it'd take a whole book to detail them) to justify their position, as well as a complete perversion of Christian doctrine that really had more roots in European Christianity from the Dark Ages up through the Inquisition, when there was an attempt to purge all non-Christians from Europe, Pagan and Jew alike (convert or die, essentially).  It was on this history of libel and slander against Jews, going back centuries, that Hitler built his false edifice. I am grateful that you recognize that none of these concepts actually apply to Darwin, but to people who took Darwin's concept of Natural Selection and ran in absurd directions with it.

Your summary is quite a propos.

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Addendum: I should add that the reason I said what I said is that we commonly get the false equivalence of Social Darwinism with actual evolutionary biology, from certain Christians here, and I was essentially asking if you were one of those types. I am glad to find you are not.

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Godschild wrote:
I take it very personally when someone says Hitler was a Christian doing what Christians believe is right, when only a few and very few Christians believed that the Jews were bad for mankind before the theory of natural selection. There were more Christians who believed this after the theory of natural selection, wrongly believing, the Bible never calls for such a thing and the NT actually teaches otherwise. So we have supposed Christians and people like Hitler using the theory for their own agenda, falsely using it I might add, so both sides of this Hitler thing should be denouncing Hitler for what he was, an evil murderer finding false excuses to justify his delusion.

GC

With regard to the part of your quote I bolded, are you serious?!? Have you ever read anything about European history? News flash: Christian anti-Semitism and Christian persecution of Jews was alive and well long before the 19th Century. Long before! Don't lay that shit at Darwin's feet. Hell, to take but one of myriad examples one could mention, Martin Luther was a foaming-at-the-mouth Jew hater of the first order. There are passages in his works that wouldn't have been at all out of place in Mein Kampf.

I take it very personally when someone piously whitewashes history to make his religion look better than it really was. Mass killings, pogroms, forced conversions, theft of property, mob actions (and most of it blessed by the religious leaders of the day) . . . the list goes on and on and lasted for centuries before Charles Darwin was a twinkle in his father's eye. But you think it took the theory of natural selection to bring things to a head? Get real.

I think you're both talking past one another. The Christians didn't have a racial  hatred of Jews, prior to the German blend of Social Darwinism with "race theory", as they called it. They simply wanted everyone in Europe to convert to Christianity or else, and the refusal of the Jews was taken badly, resulting in centuries of attacks and blood libels, etc. It makes no sense for the Christians to have gone to such effort to convert the Jews by force if they hated them for their race.

So I think the point can be made that it took a toxic combination of this anti-Jew animus that had developed as a flavor of German Christianity, over the centuries, with all the blood libel and other slanderous things said about them ("diseased vermin", etc), combined with the idea of a racial identity that needed to be "purified" under Social Darwinism's perverse version of Natural Selection, to make the Nazi ideology that developed out of the German nationalism of the 19th and early 20th centuries.