(October 1, 2015 at 10:53 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:Again, Christ decides who is and who is not 'Christian.' No one else nor does our actions. While detailed knowledge of the bible is not Mandated, what is mandated is that we honor what it is we have been given. So if we do indeed have access to the bible then it is by that standard we will be judged. No one here who can read anything I wrote can claim to not have access to the bible. therefore when I speak to you (anyone who can read this) I am speaking to those who will be responsible to what is in the bible.(October 1, 2015 at 9:44 am)Drich Wrote: did you read those definations?
Because the 'No true scots' fallacy center around not being able to disqualify a person from being apart of a social grouping when their are no rules governing that particular objection/attempted disqualification.
The example being 'no true Scotsman' would put sugar in his porage... well their aren't any rules concerning being a Scotsman and sugar in porage. however one could indeed say no scot could be born in Germany from a strictly German decent. why? Because a Scotsman in this case would be referring to one's country of origin, and as such where and to whom one is born defines one's country of orgin.
Like wise Their are terms and conditions that make one Christian. If one charges that another can not be a Christian, and conduct something like the Spanish Inquision then yes we can look at those acts and see where they were in direct violation of the laws governing Christianity.
Now I will concede their are times when people say a true Christian won't XYZ and XYZ is not in the bible. Yes that would be an example of a no true scots fallacy applied to Christianity. However the No true Scots fallacy does not refer to the term 'No true christian' never being used. Because clearly their are times when behavior exceeds the boundries of a given social group that would disqualify a given person or who group of people from said group because their actions clearly breaks the rules of said group.
We understand what you mean when you give your definition of Christian, because we recognize you as a Bible Idolator.
However, the point remains that a person can be a Christian without ever having seen, read, or even heard of a Bible.
All they have to do is be told of Jesus the Savior, and accept that Jesus died to atone for our sins so we can go to heaven to be with God.
That's a Christian, period. All the Bible does is record the various stories that make up Christianity's lore-set and alleged history.
So when you Bible Idolators tell us your various versions of what is and isn't in the Bible, and say this particular version (or that one) is the Only Right Way To Be A Christian, that's the No True Scotsman.
Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 20, 2025, 4:35 am
Thread Rating:
Two possibilities...
|
|
« Next Oldest | Next Newest »
|
Messages In This Thread |
Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 28, 2015 at 7:49 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Longhorn - September 28, 2015 at 7:52 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by robvalue - September 28, 2015 at 7:55 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 28, 2015 at 7:57 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by robvalue - September 28, 2015 at 8:00 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Iroscato - September 28, 2015 at 8:32 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 28, 2015 at 9:22 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by SofaKingHigh - September 28, 2015 at 9:31 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - September 28, 2015 at 9:58 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 28, 2015 at 10:27 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - September 28, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Chad32 - September 28, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - September 29, 2015 at 9:03 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 29, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - September 30, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Angrboda - September 30, 2015 at 12:33 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Crossless1 - September 30, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - September 30, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Chad32 - September 29, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 29, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Angrboda - September 29, 2015 at 5:42 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Randy Carson - September 30, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - September 30, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 28, 2015 at 1:17 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Cato - September 29, 2015 at 6:20 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - September 29, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 29, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Chad32 - September 28, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Chad32 - September 28, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - September 28, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Chad32 - September 28, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Losty - September 28, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 28, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by vorlon13 - September 28, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Chad32 - September 28, 2015 at 11:41 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Minimalist - September 28, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 28, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Minimalist - September 28, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by vorlon13 - September 28, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Minimalist - September 28, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Minimalist - September 28, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 28, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Godschild - September 29, 2015 at 1:56 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 29, 2015 at 5:57 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Godschild - September 29, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 29, 2015 at 8:43 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Godschild - September 29, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Crossless1 - September 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Godschild - September 29, 2015 at 4:37 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Crossless1 - September 29, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 29, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Crossless1 - September 29, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 29, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 30, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 28, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Crossless1 - September 28, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by JesusHChrist - September 28, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 29, 2015 at 3:50 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Godschild - September 29, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Brian37 - September 29, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 30, 2015 at 7:13 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by robvalue - September 30, 2015 at 7:19 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Brian37 - September 30, 2015 at 8:45 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 30, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 30, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 1, 2015 at 8:47 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Reforged - October 1, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 1, 2015 at 9:06 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Reforged - October 1, 2015 at 9:09 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 1, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Reforged - October 1, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 1, 2015 at 9:52 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Reforged - October 1, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Angrboda - October 1, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 2, 2015 at 8:53 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 2, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Minimalist - September 30, 2015 at 11:34 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - September 30, 2015 at 6:32 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - September 30, 2015 at 6:46 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 1, 2015 at 8:28 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 1, 2015 at 8:42 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 1, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Crossless1 - September 30, 2015 at 7:07 pm
Two possibilities... - by KUSA - September 30, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 30, 2015 at 6:52 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 1, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by robvalue - October 1, 2015 at 9:01 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 1, 2015 at 9:07 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 1, 2015 at 9:08 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 1, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 1, 2015 at 9:44 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 1, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Crossless1 - October 1, 2015 at 11:40 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 2, 2015 at 8:35 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 2, 2015 at 8:33 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Reforged - October 1, 2015 at 9:12 am
Two possibilities... - by KUSA - October 1, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 1, 2015 at 9:36 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by Drich - October 1, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by TubbyTubby - October 1, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Two possibilities... - by vorlon13 - October 1, 2015 at 1:32 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 1, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - October 1, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Two possibilities... - by ApeNotKillApe - October 2, 2015 at 10:40 am
|
Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)