(October 4, 2015 at 10:00 am)Elpidio Chuy Wrote:Quote:What I mean is, the way you talk about us - as fools but never mind we'll learn in hell - clearly doesn't come from a position of love your fellow man. This inner peace and joy you claim to have seems more like schadenfreude. And the question is, does that matter with god? Are good works with bad intentions just as valid with him? If they are, then it's just about brownie points, and so the question becomes, are you being paid by the hour or by commission? Will you be rewarded in heaven for the number of souls you've actually brought to god (commission) or just being able to say "I tried" (even if you didn't try that hard and your heart wasn't in it).
After all I did,you understood,nothing,I tried for you so that you will believe but I did it because I love God,because I love God I must love you.The effort of trying also has the effect.
When I said "you will learn in hell" means "you WILL believe but it will be too late".But let's say for argument's sake that you don't know for certain that Hell exists. Are you willing to burn in Hell for all eternity if you're wrong? Common sense tells us that sin MUST be punished. Our very human soul tells us that there MUST be a God Who is going to judge every human being in eternity. The Bible warns in Ecclesiastes 12:14, “For God shall bring every work into judgement, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
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Just keep telling yourself that that's ^^^ what you meant by this:
(October 2, 2015 at 10:50 am)Elpidio Chuy Wrote: Just leave them ronedee these fool's don't want to listen. Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall. They never learn.They just love to thrive in there sin's.I would actually define them apthiestic since they don't care about God on whether he exist's or he doesn't but never mind they'll learn in Hell.
Do not speak in the hearing of a fool, For he will despise the wisdom of your words.Proverbs 23:9
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.Proverbs 18:2
You may be able to convince yourself, but I doubt you'll convince god, if he exists.