(October 29, 2015 at 11:14 am)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 10:23 am)Rhythm Wrote: Or that it's random. We currently view it as the very -opposite- of random. Things proceed according to natural laws. Particularly in the case of the species we see - there is an exceedingly non-random explanation for that.
oh so your saying before the big bang there was some kind of blueprint or organized DNA , hmmm pretty inpressive for unthinking exploding matter ...
If by "blueprint" you mean "this is the way that particles interact, period", then yes, I suppose. Otherise, not on your life.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.