(October 29, 2015 at 8:39 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 8:12 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: I'm not asking you to name it.
I'm just asking if it also had to be created?
im not against the idea that God is also apart of a more complex system of intelligent creation .... but the concept of eternity is incomprehensible to the human mind and our understanding of time and space might just not understand an intelligent creator always existing either is possible
So, it's either 'turtles all the way down' (see post above this.
Or, a universe creating deity, with no evidence to believe it actually exists, (other than your argument from ignorance "I can't see how the universe could have come about via natural means, therefore, god") , that now you are claiming might have always existed.
Boy, for a universe creator that you claim we are unable to understand, you sure are giving it a lot of attributes.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
