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Declaring you're going left while you're actually heading right is a one fine tactic; panda. San-Tzu talked about it in his first rule in the famous "Art of War" : "keep your plans as dark as the night".
That's why I always say : the majority knows nothing about politics and warfare. By implanting a cancer calling for a caliphate, that came with the American invasion in 2003, you just covered up the arm deals and the billions that weapon manufacturers would profit from that conflict : selling the arms to the the Iraqi government. Let ISIS grow, the more it grows the more the conflict lasts, and the more the Iraqi government ask for guns.
You should conclude this, by comparing Iraq to before the American intervention. That country had no Jihadists nor "ISIS". That cancer came after the American invasion, just like it came to Afghanistan after operation cyclone.
"Keep your plans as dark as the night". Announce you're fat so your enemy underestimates your speed. Announce you're an "Islamic Caliphate" so the enemy forgets you're working to cause disturbance to let the arm dealers sell.
About that book, I didn't read it, but its title : did he forget Obama's squint drones ? I studied for my college in Egypt; everybody knew when a wave of bombing hit Cairo, that the army was behind it. Even the assasination of "Anwar Al Sadat" is well known to be a product of the army & "Hussny Mubarak"..Did the author mention "Operation Cyclone' and the role of governments in making these organization stronger ?
All the Syrians I know point to ISIS coming out of nowhere. Even Jihadists like "Al-Nusra" got their asses kicked by ISIS out of nowhere. My friends believe Assad is controlling them. But nobody ever believes that it's a stand-alone organization. Somebody is behind it, and anybody with a tiny piece of brain in my region knows it. I say the U.S and I have my evidence : look at their weapons for a starter.
The U.S was present since they started to support "moderate resistance". I don't want to turn your stomach upside down, but please visit (bestgore.com). Despite the site being run by neo-nazies and racists, there's a lot of content (videos) coming from the combat in Syria, see the resistance yourself that America supports, see ISIS's videos, you'll know who's behind them.
The west supports all the Arab dictators with guns and arms. The arab dictators oppress us with these weapons. to me panda, this is the end of the story : humanitarian is a word I can't believe when it's coming out from "Obama" or "Nato countries", when I see the Saudi army armed with Australian & American weapons, and the Egyptian police slaughtering protesters with American sniper rifles.
I saw two revolutions until now. All the slaughters took place by American & European weapons, all dictators were "protected" by American and European covering.
"Say left, do right". Don't believe everything you see on the media. Especially when they're owned by capitalist pricks.
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The US did support the Mujahideen against the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 80s (anyone would have thought they'd have been grateful considering the the Soviet's brutal scorched earth policy which actually led the extremist Taliban getting into power. The US had little to do with that), but it certainly didn't 'create' IS or AQ. There's a complex set of events that led people like bin Laden to AQ, and there is absolutely no evidence that someone in the CIA met up with him and said "hay, bomb WTC would you so we can get [something] for [reasons]." Conspiratorial nonsense.
http://www.bbc.com/news/10302946
The taliban itself is a creation of Pakistani Intelligence, an arm the U.S used to bitch-slap the soviets.
About bin laden..Of course the CIA didn't tell him to bomb WTC ! they did it directly !
can you explain " building 7 "?
History repeats iself just like south america and operation cyclone and the taliban.
Then again what san tzu said : "keep your plans as dark as the night". They wouln't let an evidence for you to grasp.
Quote:1. When ISIS themselves declare this, then, well, what other conclusion do you want us to come to?
2. The military intervention isn't actually the point or the threat, it's the ideological premise which propagates which is the threat. SEE: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/184792347X/?tag=ecosia07-21 (excellent book, 100% recommend).
Declaring you're going left while you're actually heading right is a one fine tactic; panda. San-Tzu talked about it in his first rule in the famous "Art of War" : "keep your plans as dark as the night".
That's why I always say : the majority knows nothing about politics and warfare. By implanting a cancer calling for a caliphate, that came with the American invasion in 2003, you just covered up the arm deals and the billions that weapon manufacturers would profit from that conflict : selling the arms to the the Iraqi government. Let ISIS grow, the more it grows the more the conflict lasts, and the more the Iraqi government ask for guns.
You should conclude this, by comparing Iraq to before the American intervention. That country had no Jihadists nor "ISIS". That cancer came after the American invasion, just like it came to Afghanistan after operation cyclone.
"Keep your plans as dark as the night". Announce you're fat so your enemy underestimates your speed. Announce you're an "Islamic Caliphate" so the enemy forgets you're working to cause disturbance to let the arm dealers sell.
About that book, I didn't read it, but its title : did he forget Obama's squint drones ? I studied for my college in Egypt; everybody knew when a wave of bombing hit Cairo, that the army was behind it. Even the assasination of "Anwar Al Sadat" is well known to be a product of the army & "Hussny Mubarak"..Did the author mention "Operation Cyclone' and the role of governments in making these organization stronger ?
Quote:Sorry Atlast I don't know what you mean. If you noticed in the past 4 years intervention in Syria has actually been non-existant from NATO or the US. It's only until relatively recently that the US has decided to bomb ISIS positions in central and North Eastern Syria, with only France (and to a very limited degree the UK) following suit. No other NATO nation is involved there aside Turkey who are more interested in bombing the Kurds into oblivion.
Talking of Kurds, remember when ISIS went into 100% genocide mode and tried to obliterate them? That was another reason why some Western forces decided to intervene, and even then a lot of it was entirely humanitarian (eg. Yazidis on MT Sinjar).
And now for a more contemporary angle, seems like the ones doing the most destructive things in Syria are not the west but rather Assad, Putin and ISIS (to varying degrees in various areas). The only places taking in refugees at the moment are Northern and Western Europe.
So to conclude, the US/NATO involvement in Syria and even Northern Iraq is almost non-existant aside some bombing campaigns and humanitarian aid drives (mostly by private organizations like Islamic Aid and MSF). The biggest players in the area are the Syrians themselves, now Russia, Iran, and the various rebel and terrorist groups which are involved in running battles throughout the country.
All the Syrians I know point to ISIS coming out of nowhere. Even Jihadists like "Al-Nusra" got their asses kicked by ISIS out of nowhere. My friends believe Assad is controlling them. But nobody ever believes that it's a stand-alone organization. Somebody is behind it, and anybody with a tiny piece of brain in my region knows it. I say the U.S and I have my evidence : look at their weapons for a starter.
The U.S was present since they started to support "moderate resistance". I don't want to turn your stomach upside down, but please visit (bestgore.com). Despite the site being run by neo-nazies and racists, there's a lot of content (videos) coming from the combat in Syria, see the resistance yourself that America supports, see ISIS's videos, you'll know who's behind them.
The west supports all the Arab dictators with guns and arms. The arab dictators oppress us with these weapons. to me panda, this is the end of the story : humanitarian is a word I can't believe when it's coming out from "Obama" or "Nato countries", when I see the Saudi army armed with Australian & American weapons, and the Egyptian police slaughtering protesters with American sniper rifles.
I saw two revolutions until now. All the slaughters took place by American & European weapons, all dictators were "protected" by American and European covering.
"Say left, do right". Don't believe everything you see on the media. Especially when they're owned by capitalist pricks.
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The US did support the Mujahideen against the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 80s (anyone would have thought they'd have been grateful considering the the Soviet's brutal scorched earth policy which actually led the extremist Taliban getting into power. The US had little to do with that), but it certainly didn't 'create' IS or AQ. There's a complex set of events that led people like bin Laden to AQ, and there is absolutely no evidence that someone in the CIA met up with him and said "hay, bomb WTC would you so we can get [something] for [reasons]." Conspiratorial nonsense.
http://www.bbc.com/news/10302946
The taliban itself is a creation of Pakistani Intelligence, an arm the U.S used to bitch-slap the soviets.
About bin laden..Of course the CIA didn't tell him to bomb WTC ! they did it directly !
can you explain " building 7 "?
Quote: No evidence of this. What is clear is that ISIS is NOT a proxy of the US. That's conspiratorial nonsense (again).
History repeats iself just like south america and operation cyclone and the taliban.
Then again what san tzu said : "keep your plans as dark as the night". They wouln't let an evidence for you to grasp.
Quote: Illuminati confirmed.
