What Do Jihadists Really Want? Waking Up with Sam Harris #43

[mralstoner]

In this episode of the Waking Up podcast, Sam Harris reads from the latest issue of Dabiq, the magazine of ISIS, and discusses the beliefs and goals of jihadists worldwide.

[WinterHold]

Jihady militias are known to be the playground of local and foreign intelligence agencies; i.e used as proxies to fight wars for other  parts, and cause disturbances that affect the region of choice.

Take Syria as an example. After long bloody years of "Jihadi John", it turns out that the government of Assad is the real threat, the real butcher that doesn't hesitate to use Chemical weapons against children and civilians. The stories weren't lying. ISIS only gave more foreign nations the excuse to move armies in.

You have Russia, Turkey, the U.S, Jordan, and so many others. All in for "Jihadi John" and his "Dabiq".
Read this; and remember that history repeats itself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

Harris should say a little about this history.
The foot soldiers are mad youth who turned insane because of wars, hunger, racism and poverty. The leadership range from foreign intelligence officers to mercenaries. That's ISIS for you.

See who makes their videos and their "Dabiq". No; and I keep repeating this verse that makes Dabiq and the lies of intelligence agencies just evaporate:

Sura 2, page 42, The Quran:
( 256 )   There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

Jihadists are outlaws. The Hadith is the excuse for terrorism. Super powers have nuclear weapons and they used Jihadists a lot to fight in proxies, nobody is sacred.

The God prevents killing of innocents, forcing religion on others, orders us to be merciful, and yes there is a heaven and a hell.

[The Grand Nudger]

So, is The God™ asleep at the wheel then...or?

[Mister Agenda]

Given how eager many Americans are to run down anyone who dares block their commute just to protest against being disproportionately shot by authorities, I don't find the violence in these regions mystifying at all. Humans get very touchy when they're frustrated, in grief, stymied, abused, etc.

[WinterHold]

Given how eager many Americans are to run down anyone who dares block their commute just to protest against being disproportionately shot by authorities, I don't find the violence in these regions mystifying at all. Humans get very touchy when they're frustrated, in grief, stymied, abused, etc.

The standards for a peaceful life do vary a lot between the two societies, making them seem different; but in reality they are just the same: on both sides there are humans who get angry if the way they see what they view and experience as a peaceful and calm to life is disturbed. Disturbing that way is one way to clash with the local society. ISIS in Syria clashed with locals for this exact reason.

To be honest, people around most of the Middle East would throw a happy party if their way to work is blocked. But would fight to the death if their sleep is disturbed, or money flow is cut.