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Review so far of the Romans study
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RE: Review so far of the Romans study
If I'm understanding this correctly you want to teach this verse so as to clarify levels of sin/evil don't really matter to Yaweh.

Also to clarify you think that atheist "hate" Christianity because we don't understand it..... Dodgy

okay so as to the former i would be mortified with someone who thinks that homosexulity and rebellious children are on the same level as rapists and murderers. Even in this case every one is on the same level as the rapist/murderer. That's disgusting and not a really good selling point for Yaweh.

As for the latter... you do know in America most of us where forced to"understand" the word of Yaweh. There are billboards and signs EVERYWHERE there is any sign of civilization about Jesus. If we don't understand then Nobody is understanding it. Its Wednesday so there are literally millions of bible studies going on and each one would say something different about the same verse.

So that leaves only how we (or at least me) see this message in the bible.
Either you see it as a redemption and salvation story or
you see it as abuse.
http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/20...-just.html

Guess which way I see that as and it ain't due to a "misunderstanding".

Now that is why I don't do Christianity. If you choose to that's fine. In America that is okay.

As far as "hate" for Christians goes let me ask you (the teacher in this case) why there would be such "hate" for Christians? Do you think that maybe. a few things have been done in the name of Jesus that might cause this reaction? Look carefully at Christian history.
http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm

Look well to the modern examples of the faith and remember it is an unfortunate fact that it is easier to remember the bad things than the good things.

http://listverse.com/2010/02/23/10-peopl...-bad-name/

then there are the personal stories

http://micahjmurray.com/why-we-left-the-church/

I believe there is a verse in the new testements that says to fix your self before trying to fix others
Matthew 7:3

If for a moment the Christian would quite trying to convert everyone then maybe this negative reaction would not occur but wait Yaweh says that the world will hate you. John 15:18: so in a nut shell the Christian wants it that way.
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