Review so far of the Romans study

[Drich]

so is catholocism also incorrect are you talking about christianity before the catholic church ?

This post was the reason i went back to chapter 3.
As Paul says in rom 3:9-18
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV
No one is right Their words are meaningless their efforts are worthless that all are guilty of sin. Paull quoted King David in the Psalms, and David was talking about the most highly regaurded religious people of his day. Paul took that passage and applied to everyone today.

Our religions do not save us in any way shape or form. On Jesus can do that and it is done on a person by person basis. Based on our exposure to God's word and our ability to comprehend and put it all into practice. (Based on the parable of the talents.)

So no The R/C Church is not 'right', but neither is ANYONE else. But at the same time Christ will judge a great number in that church as well as ALL Other Jesus Christ centered churches (as well as 'other religions) as being 'Christian.' Because being "Christian" (In any way that truly matters) has nothing to do with the titles we give our self but what Jesus Himself will judge about us and what he has given us to be faithful to and if we were faithful to what we were given.

  i think alll religious people should be learning about the history of their religion and be true to the doctrine .

But, that's the thing Romans is telling us. Their is no 'doctrine' that will save us. It is only through a personal relationship with Christ, by which we honor what he gives us over to understand. We will see that Christ Himself boils everything down to 2 commands. Love God with all that you are. Love your neighbor as yourself. this is the base line Jesus is looking for.

westboro baptist church hurray they are practicing their doctrine and i wish all religion were so honest .

what is most do then what?

do you think all denominations are wrong or do you believe one christian denom in right ?

No, none are 'right.' Never is the bible is it said we are saved by this doctrine or that one (speaking of specific denominational doctrine) Meaning we are not saved by Religion. Only through christ. Which mean only Through the Judgement of Jesus Christ will we be awarded the 'title' Saved, Born again and or Christian. The various churches sell these titles, but has no right to do so. Only Jesus can give us these titles, so that no man can boast of what he believes or has done to earn his way into heaven.

I believe Many who think themselves saved are not, and many who don't think that way are, and lots of people who never heard of Christ will also be saved. Because again, Salvation is a work/judgement of Christ and not of a religious establishment or work./We do not get to decide who is and is not saved. That is between the individual and Jesus.

So what role does the church have? It is the best chance we have to learning what it is God wants from us. It is a set of training wheels that keeps us up right and headed in the right direction.

where do you get that idea that christians do not believe humans go to hell for eternity christians absolutely DO !!!! lol humans live for eternity

The bible/Jesus teaches that. If you honestly look at what the bible actually says/putting man's doctrine down.
It never says we will burn forever in Hell. It only ever says Hell is forever and that Satan is destined to burn forever. Jesus specifically tells us that Hell is where the soul is sent to die. "Fear not the one whocan destroy the body, but the God who can destroy the body and soul in Hell."
Not to mention every single parable that mentions Hell describes who/what being cast into the fire get burned up by the fire. not burning forever in the fire. Again the bible only teaches that is the fate of Satan.

I BELIEVE Personally that our time in hell will reflect the nature of our sin. Jesus describes varying degrees of punishment (speaking about those who harm children for instance or those who spread lies and rummors in the church being singled our for 'special attention'/Better for them to not have ever been born.

is what most christians believe or are you saying there are thousands of christians cults about wouldnt every christian denomination be considered a cult if the doctrine deviates from the original but a lot of people believe the catholics is the true original faith and they really are or at least the first organized church ?

Cult is a word that.. Legalistic (people in whim Paul has nothing good to say) people use to describe anything/form of worship not their own. Again the idea they have being they have the only 'right' form of christianity, when in Fact the bible teaches only Jesus decides who is and is not Christian. So it is a meaningless word from a biblical perspective.. All Jesus Christ centered churches have the same pitfalls and oppertunities as all others, it completely depends on what God has given you over to understand and your ability to be faithful to it.

and also most christians believe in the inerrancy of the bible and believe its completely perfect and protected to even claim that 1% of the bible could possibly be mistranslated is heresy , do you believe the bible is divine

Actually the bible never claims to be inerrant. I am a strong believer of speaking where the bible speaks and remaining silent where it is silent. As far as inerrency it is silent. That said after 20 years of total study and 8/9 years of athiest questions I have yet to find a real error. No all the bible says is we are not allowed to change what is said in it and that we are responsible for all that it says, or rather all that we can understand of it.

since it has the Word in it and the Word has always existed and was always with bible god so is it apart of him some do think that do you think the Word which is in the bible is a divine thing apart of God ?

You are quoting John 1:1
If you keep reading John has identified "The word" as "The word Made Flesh." Meaning Jesus. Calling Jesus "The word of God" means Jesus has the Authority of God in all that He says and does.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV

"We" did not start identifying the bible as "The word of God" for several hundred years later.