RE: God and Morality: Separate Issues
January 3, 2011 at 10:10 am
(This post was last modified: January 3, 2011 at 10:11 am by Stempy.)
(January 3, 2011 at 9:33 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: So you're distinguishing the nature of being side of this argument with the nature of our knowledge side? I'm just trying to follow your thinking here.All I've done is describe a theistic meta-ethic: the view that goodness is grounded in God's nature; I've not claimed to prove that. This is probably what you meant by "God is morality". I agree with you that the argument which says "If you don't believe in God then there is no sound basis for making moral judgements" (an epistemological statement) is false. But what is normally argued is that "If there is no God then there is no sound basis for making moral judgements" (an ontological statement) - although a "sound basis for making moral judgements" could refer to a number of things (such as a grounding for moral terms, or the existence of objective obligations, etc.).
So why do you feel it's not necessary for an advocate of a position to explain what is meant by that position?
I believe I have shown, epistemologically speaking, that the argument is a tautology. You've created a definition and then used the definition to prove your definition is true. I have reason to suspect that such circular reasoning is a mental slight of hand employed to dodge the dilemma of the first two options.