RE: Religious friend dumps pile of shit in my facebook inbox. Too thick to tear apart.
November 26, 2015 at 5:35 am
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2015 at 5:53 am by robvalue.)
I guess if these guys constantly throw out stupid garbage, there's no danger of their logic circuits engaging at any point. Just how they like it.
And no, default atheism is not a belief. It's a lack of a belief. It's the default position, that you are not committed to saying God does or does not exist. Some people literally can't understand this, though.
It's like being on the jury. Say you've heard all evidence so far, and you don't feel convinced the defendant is guilty, but neither do you feel convinced that he's innocent. You're undecided. You're reserving judgement. There is no compulsion to have to consider any statement true or false, you can just say I'm not sure which it is.
That is weak atheism. Of course, many atheists will go further and say they do believe there is no God (strong atheism), in other words they will say yes, the guy is innocent. You can do so without also having to claim absolute knowledge of this. A complete absence of any evidence remotely linking the person to the crime, after the prosecution has spent hours throwing out irrelevancies, would be reasonable grounds for such a conclusion. Especially if the prosecution claims the defendant used "mind powers" to commit the murder, without ever properly saying what these powers are supposed to be; and then every witness for the prosecution tells contradictory versions of events, which overlap only on this idea of "mind magic" which they all describe totally differently.
I think I'd be confident saying the guy is innocent and this is some sort of lynching by people with a slender grip on reality.
And no, default atheism is not a belief. It's a lack of a belief. It's the default position, that you are not committed to saying God does or does not exist. Some people literally can't understand this, though.
It's like being on the jury. Say you've heard all evidence so far, and you don't feel convinced the defendant is guilty, but neither do you feel convinced that he's innocent. You're undecided. You're reserving judgement. There is no compulsion to have to consider any statement true or false, you can just say I'm not sure which it is.
That is weak atheism. Of course, many atheists will go further and say they do believe there is no God (strong atheism), in other words they will say yes, the guy is innocent. You can do so without also having to claim absolute knowledge of this. A complete absence of any evidence remotely linking the person to the crime, after the prosecution has spent hours throwing out irrelevancies, would be reasonable grounds for such a conclusion. Especially if the prosecution claims the defendant used "mind powers" to commit the murder, without ever properly saying what these powers are supposed to be; and then every witness for the prosecution tells contradictory versions of events, which overlap only on this idea of "mind magic" which they all describe totally differently.
I think I'd be confident saying the guy is innocent and this is some sort of lynching by people with a slender grip on reality.
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