God and Morality: Separate Issues

[DeistPaladin]

Your unsolicited opinion is noted

Hardly unsolicited since we were discussing the qualifications of different apologists, amateur and professional. I'm offering that there is little to distinguish one from the other and why.

I wonder if your frivolous accusations of logical fallacies ironically count as trying to poison the well?

Neither claim (or argument) is made by any capable Christian apologist because both claims are boneheaded, with the latter being fallacious.

One that is either the same or very similar to the one that Stempy alluded to, that moral order is grounded in the very nature of God and revealed prescriptively in his commands.

Bold emphasis mine.

Explain how these two statements are different. It seems to me that the "boneheaded" one is just a simple summation of your version that I've highlighted in bold.

Afterwords, you can explain what exactly that means and what you base that on. It's one thing to invent a definition like "God is morality" or "moral order is grounded in the very nature of God" and then proceed to offer this as "proof" to support your opinion that God is therefore required for moral order to exist. It's another thing to offer sound logic to support your assertions.

When the very question is whether or not God is necessary vis-a-vis morality, it will not do to beg that question; that is, to assume the very thing to be proved. To do so is to commit your very own vicious circle.

You still have not explained how I have done this.