RE: Is America the greatest country
December 13, 2015 at 2:11 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2015 at 2:15 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(December 13, 2015 at 1:37 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:(December 13, 2015 at 11:48 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It's not "treatment," that's the thing though. They're not being pained by someone else mistreating them, they are being pained by their own thoughts and choices.
It's like if someone is a huge bigot and just hates everyone else. That person becomes consumed by their own hatred and bigotry, isolates himself from everyone else, hates everyone else, and decides to live a lonely life of hatred and emptiness. In doing so, this person just makes themselves extremely bitter and unhappy, because as human beings we need love and companionship. But this person is too consumed by hate to open his heart to those things.
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Yeah, homosexuals, who want to express their love for each other are JUST like bigots and therefore bring on themselves the fate you and your god believe they deserve, by not listening to sanctimonious a**holes, who think they have monopoly on the right way to live... Do you ever connect together the beliefs you hold and the apologetics you use to prop them up with, so that the inherent bigotry and disingenuity of the system becomes apparent? Or is it all just a bunch of ever disjointed and carefully compartmentalized platitudes, only meant to make you feel good about yourself?
And anyway - however you manage to cherry-pick and twist your way around the idea of a place of eternal torture and the omnipotent, benevolent creator, that MADE it and decided to keep it - that doesn't change the fact, that according to you and your god - EVERYONE deserves to die, which is why we all have to die. Because Eve ate an apple and all the innocent people afterwards - a great number of which never got to eat anything, because god killed them at birth - thereby deserved to be mortal.
You're making strawmen arguments and very much mistaken about what I believe and about what is "according to me".
Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread. If you're actually curious to know my real position on these issues feel free to PM me and we can talk about it. One member already did so and we had an honest discussion about it. If not, you can continue to falsely accuse me and strawman, but chances are I probably won't respond.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh