My Rebuttal to Dawkins Argument

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You seem to be a serious person...
Let's look at this seriously (as if no one else has done exactly that....)

Hello, 

Greetings to you brothers and sisters in humanity,

Greetings!

I would like to refute Richard Dawkins argument " If God created man, then who created God? "

I wouldn't say that is Richard Dawkins argument... He must have borrowed it from someone else, I don't know who.
But it's just taking the argument of the creator god that extra step.

The answer to this question is very simple, and I would like to discuss it in detail:

1. The Creator is called The Creator, so how can the Creator have a creator if he is The Creator?

This is a bit silly. As many people have pointed out right on the first few pages...
The Architect is called The Architect, so how can the Architect have an architect if he is The Architect?
The Engineer is called The Engineer, so how can the Engineer have an engineer if he is The Engineer?

2. The question can be turned around, which will allow me to ask: " If the universe created man, then who created the universe? "

"Who"?
As far as I'm aware, only people could be the answer to such a question... Since people are ruled out, because we're assuming no people existed before the "Universe created man", then that question makes no sense.
- If the Earth created the Alps, then which mountain created the Earth?

3. Only do things in our galaxy and universe and space-time, require a creator. God is obviously out of space and time, and the galaxy and universe, in another dimension, in which we do not understand.

How would you know about that?
Nothing we do is ever an act of creation, as the one you wish to impart upon this god character.
What people usually mean when they say they create something is merely a combination of different pre-existing elements to acquire a new shape.
How would you know that these elements can't have come from some source, very unlike a god? Maybe that source is working at many different out-of-this-universe locations, thus providing many Universes.... You can't know. You shouldn't posit any stock on any explanation, until it has been tested. That is how intellectual honesty works.

Here, you also leap from "The Creator" to "God", as if that is not a huge leap in reasoning.Automatically, you are putting god out of space and time, whatever that may mean. I can't fathom what "out of space" means. Is space like a box and god is out of that box? LOL! Space is everywhere where "where" is meaningful... space is everywhere where "in" and "out" are meaningful. Space-time is not a box.
Another dimension which we do not understand is just another way of saying: I made this up, but it doesn't make much sense.... but I want it to be real.

Darth Vader, also exists in another dimension...

4. This is like saying that an explanation requires an explanation, which would lose you in an infinite regress, which is clearly contradictory to the bases and fundamentals of science.

So, it's better not to invent an explanation, but to keep researching until the actual real explanation is found.
Why would we rely on explanations invented thousands of years ago, by scientifically ignorant pre-written language humans?

5. Antony Flew in his book states:

Now, clearly theists and atheist can agree on one thing: if anything at all exists, there must be something preceding it that always existed. How did this eternally existing reality come to be? The answer is that it never came to be. It always existed. Take your pick: God or universe. Something always existed

Antony Flew was another ignorant. One with little imagination at that...
There are far more options than "god or the universe". Some no human has ever even thought of.

I can come up with a whole class of godlings who create Universes in their high-school-equivalent years, as practice for bigger things. One of them would have created our Universe... with all the flaws we see in it... I wouldn't give him more than a C.
These godlings would be born out of other gods and get bored out of their minds, if not for the constant creation of Universes and continuous tinkering with them.
And they die!