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"The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"

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RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"

December 24, 2015 at 9:24 pm

(December 24, 2015 at 7:27 pm)Delicate Wrote:
(December 24, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Sal Wrote: From the article:

What this wanker fails to account for is apostates. Sure the non-religious have a 1.7 birthrate, but what about the apostates? That's why non-theism (unaffiliated/non-religious/atheists/et. al) is growing. But as Dennet and Harris have noted, this isn't due to some atheistic cause or whatever, but merely the free flow of information and education.

If you want the real numbers, just google "religious affiliation worldwide".

This is stupid criticism and fitting that an atheist should make it.

1) Apostates go both ways. Account for people who apostatize from atheism and come back to faith, and the rate of growth of apostate atheism overall shrinks significantly.
2) Even accounting for apostates to atheism, if they take on the replacement rates of the unaffiliated, they end up shrinking relative to apostate theists if the theists take on the replacement rates of theists.
3) Unaffiliated =/= atheist. Many unaffiliateds are theists.
4) The rise of atheism is not due to the flow of information and education, but predominantly to the rise of online echo chambers, outrage generators, and snake-oil salesmen like Ham Harris and Daniel Dennett.

It's a smart enough criticism to get under your skin and get you to post 4 points of nonsense. Let's both face it, you and yours are a dying breed.

Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.

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