"The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"

Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!

Current time: March 9, 2025, 6:22 pm

Thread Rating:

0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
1
2
3
4
5

Thread Modes

"The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"

Redbeard The Pink Offline

Wizard of Staunton

Religious Views: Skeptical Atheist

Posts: 1382
Threads: 5
Joined: June 30, 2015
Reputation: 39

#125

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"

December 26, 2015 at 5:41 pm

(December 26, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Delicate Wrote:
(December 26, 2015 at 4:29 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: So...

Once again we at the point where it is time for you to present your evidence (demonstrable, verifiable, repeatable, falsifiable), and show us how you have applied critical thinking to said evidence in order to determine that your god exists.

What are you waiting for?

Well, I'll be happy to do that. But there's a problem. The kind of evidence you're asking for is naively scientific. It fails to take into account non-scientific, non-experimental evidence (eg historical) and non-evidential (ie rational) bases of justification.

I'd like to make a case for a holistic (as in wide-ranging and multifaceted) as opposed to scientistic approach to justified beliefs.

It's worth pointing out that many intelligent atheists reject scientism, and rejecting scientism doesn't entail rejecting science.

To make my case, scientism must first be demolished.

Translation: I want to be able to use the Bible and/or the ramblings of Christian historians who agree with me, and I'd like to be able to substitute arguments for actual evidence, and I'd reeeally appreciate it if we didn't look overly hard at the actual premises I make when I lay out these arguments.

Sure, bro. Bring it. Let's see what you've got.

Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com

Find

« Next Oldest | Next Newest »

Messages In This Thread

"The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 5:15 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Alex K - December 24, 2015 at 5:31 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Cato - December 24, 2015 at 7:14 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Pat Mustard - December 25, 2015 at 4:13 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Anomalocaris - December 25, 2015 at 5:01 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by abaris - December 24, 2015 at 5:31 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Thumpalumpacus - December 24, 2015 at 5:33 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by ignoramus - December 24, 2015 at 5:33 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Rhondazvous - December 25, 2015 at 11:05 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Edwardo Piet - December 24, 2015 at 5:37 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Sal - December 24, 2015 at 5:43 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Alex K - December 24, 2015 at 5:48 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Sal - December 24, 2015 at 6:00 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 7:27 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by abaris - December 24, 2015 at 7:49 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by brewer - December 24, 2015 at 9:24 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Whateverist - December 25, 2015 at 3:30 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Aoi Magi - December 24, 2015 at 7:51 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Cecelia - December 24, 2015 at 6:50 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Ravenshire - December 24, 2015 at 7:12 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Cato - December 24, 2015 at 7:17 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Mr.wizard - December 24, 2015 at 7:50 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by ignoramus - December 24, 2015 at 8:03 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Thumpalumpacus - December 24, 2015 at 8:25 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 24, 2015 at 9:05 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Crossless1 - December 24, 2015 at 9:38 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 25, 2015 at 3:01 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Whateverist - December 25, 2015 at 3:24 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 3:32 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by downbeatplumb - December 25, 2015 at 6:09 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by brewer - December 25, 2015 at 9:11 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Joods - December 25, 2015 at 11:08 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Brian37 - December 25, 2015 at 3:51 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Athene - December 25, 2015 at 3:36 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 3:39 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Athene - December 25, 2015 at 3:42 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 3:52 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Angrboda - December 25, 2015 at 3:55 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Athene - December 25, 2015 at 4:35 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Bob Kelso - December 25, 2015 at 6:35 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by ignoramus - December 25, 2015 at 3:41 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Whateverist - December 25, 2015 at 3:42 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 3:55 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 25, 2015 at 4:03 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Exian - December 25, 2015 at 4:20 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Alex K - December 25, 2015 at 7:35 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Rhondazvous - December 25, 2015 at 4:32 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 1:57 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Heat - December 25, 2015 at 4:55 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Homeless Nutter - December 25, 2015 at 7:36 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Brian37 - December 25, 2015 at 9:31 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Cyberman - December 25, 2015 at 9:38 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 25, 2015 at 9:45 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by LastPoet - December 25, 2015 at 10:06 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Rhondazvous - December 25, 2015 at 11:14 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by LastPoet - December 25, 2015 at 1:58 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 1:59 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by LastPoet - December 25, 2015 at 2:00 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 2:07 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by LastPoet - December 25, 2015 at 3:41 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Joods - December 25, 2015 at 2:14 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Cyberman - December 25, 2015 at 2:16 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 2:17 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 25, 2015 at 2:20 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 2:20 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 4:03 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Joods - December 25, 2015 at 5:17 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Simon Moon - December 25, 2015 at 5:53 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Joods - December 25, 2015 at 2:22 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 25, 2015 at 3:26 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Heat - December 25, 2015 at 3:35 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2015 at 4:14 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Jenny A - December 25, 2015 at 4:25 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2015 at 6:14 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by JesusHChrist - December 25, 2015 at 4:01 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Cyberman - December 25, 2015 at 4:08 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 5:09 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Brian37 - December 25, 2015 at 6:42 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Pat Mustard - December 26, 2015 at 11:51 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 4:26 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Simon Moon - December 26, 2015 at 4:29 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 5:04 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Simon Moon - December 26, 2015 at 5:14 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 5:20 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Silver - December 26, 2015 at 5:48 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Redbeard The Pink - December 26, 2015 at 5:41 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 5:49 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Pat Mustard - December 26, 2015 at 6:23 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Redbeard The Pink - December 25, 2015 at 4:17 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Simon Moon - December 25, 2015 at 4:38 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Crossless1 - December 25, 2015 at 4:51 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Angrboda - December 25, 2015 at 4:48 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Mr.wizard - December 25, 2015 at 5:01 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Angrboda - December 25, 2015 at 5:02 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Anomalocaris - December 25, 2015 at 6:27 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Thumpalumpacus - December 26, 2015 at 10:29 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Cyberman - December 25, 2015 at 5:19 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 6:01 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Simon Moon - December 25, 2015 at 6:12 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 8:42 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 8:46 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Simon Moon - December 26, 2015 at 1:42 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Bob Kelso - December 26, 2015 at 3:40 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 7:58 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by The Grand Nudger - December 25, 2015 at 6:02 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Cyberman - December 25, 2015 at 6:19 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Edwardo Piet - December 25, 2015 at 7:41 pm

"The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Easy Guns - December 25, 2015 at 6:43 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Cato - December 25, 2015 at 7:50 pm

"The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Easy Guns - December 25, 2015 at 8:56 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Whateverist - December 25, 2015 at 9:15 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Cyberman - December 26, 2015 at 1:43 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 26, 2015 at 9:13 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Cyberman - December 26, 2015 at 9:20 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 26, 2015 at 9:37 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by houseofcantor - December 26, 2015 at 9:42 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 26, 2015 at 10:11 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Edwardo Piet - December 26, 2015 at 10:34 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Thumpalumpacus - December 26, 2015 at 10:36 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Edwardo Piet - December 26, 2015 at 10:37 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 26, 2015 at 11:46 am

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by LastPoet - December 26, 2015 at 11:54 am

"The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by LadyForCamus - December 26, 2015 at 1:55 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by LastPoet - December 26, 2015 at 5:07 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Edwardo Piet - December 26, 2015 at 5:08 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by LastPoet - December 26, 2015 at 5:08 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Edwardo Piet - December 26, 2015 at 5:10 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 5:12 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 26, 2015 at 6:22 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 6:28 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 26, 2015 at 6:33 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 6:34 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Brian37 - December 26, 2015 at 6:46 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Crossless1 - December 26, 2015 at 10:13 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 26, 2015 at 6:36 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 7:07 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Silver - December 26, 2015 at 7:11 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 7:22 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Silver - December 26, 2015 at 7:24 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 7:36 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 26, 2015 at 10:44 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Silver - December 26, 2015 at 6:48 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Bob Kelso - December 26, 2015 at 9:40 pm

"The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Easy Guns - December 26, 2015 at 9:49 pm

"The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by LadyForCamus - December 26, 2015 at 10:07 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Reforged - December 26, 2015 at 10:52 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Edwardo Piet - December 26, 2015 at 10:54 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Reforged - December 26, 2015 at 11:03 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by Edwardo Piet - December 26, 2015 at 11:14 pm

RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever" - by robvalue - December 26, 2015 at 11:00 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread		Author	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Are Atheists Afraid to Join Atheists?	Asmodeus	10	1157	October 26, 2024 at 9:09 am Last Post: Asmodeus
	Church of the atheists and prayer and supplication	Eclectic	23	2739	September 19, 2022 at 2:34 pm Last Post: Ranjr
	I love cats and monkies more, than god	Interaktive	14	1587	August 26, 2022 at 8:31 am Last Post: Angrboda
	Atheists, do you think Florence Nightingale was a way better person than that fraud	Kimbu42	6	1306	October 11, 2021 at 9:43 am Last Post: Fireball
	Miracles and their place, and Atheists.	Mystic	35	5652	October 4, 2018 at 3:53 am Last Post: robvalue
	Do Christians really contribut to society more than atheists	Asmodee	12	5118	June 27, 2018 at 1:19 am Last Post: Anomalocaris
	Atheists are emotionally stronger than theists	Alexmahone	92	18155	June 21, 2018 at 5:32 pm Last Post: Crossless2.0
	I enjoy far right atheists more than lgbt marxist atheists	Sopra	4	2503	February 28, 2018 at 9:09 pm Last Post: Edwardo Piet
	There are more American Atheists than we thought	Aroura	26	10067	May 27, 2017 at 11:16 am Last Post: vorlon13
	Have you ever actually heard an response that made you stop and think?	jmoney_419	32	6684	September 23, 2016 at 2:36 pm Last Post: Thumpalumpacus

View a Printable Version

Users browsing this thread: 8 Guest(s)

Login
Username:
Password:	Lost Password?
	Remember me