(December 26, 2015 at 6:34 pm)Delicate Wrote: But math, all on its own, produces knowledge.
Math is not a religion. Math is a language we use to denote counts of objects or to do calculations.
One orange
Uno orange
Ichi orange
Now that abstract still is universal. The 1 denoting 1 orange. The abstract of religion isn't simply metaphor nor is it ability to self correct the same as the language of math. You screw up math you have the ability to correct it. Especially with peer review. Religion is not a good kind of abstract, it is political and tribal and while there certainly are empathetic moderates and liberals in religion, the idea itself has far too much of a problem holding back progress and only adapts to stay relevant.
If you want abstracts that that teach morals but don't get political, fiction like 1984 and Star Trek and Harry Potter can teach the same things without being a religion or becoming political.
The language of math is universal, religion is not universal.