Question to Theists About the Source of Morality

[God of Mr. Hanky]

If the source of morality is from God, then how can we directly and comprehensively study it so that we can know all about what is morally right and what is morally wrong?

Only through a Guide appointed by him, a leader, one who lights the way. Otherwise, we know very little, just some basics, with a lot of subjective viewpoint from our own thinking as well as society.

The Guide is either apparent or hidden. Today I believe he is hidden. The way to access him is to turn to God frequently until he guides you to the Guide who guides you upon the way, and reveals good acts.

There is an objective way to act on the journey. In higher levels, sometimes, we can fall and destroy ourselves very easily without this guidance. There is an etiquette to follow.

And to make to the next step when in higher path, you need the guide to show and make you take that next state, whole new state, whole new level.

Wow, that's just amazing that one can write out the above, look it over, and not cringe. Do you really believe that blather?

IF there is a guide, and he is hiding, and still it is your responsibility to seek him out, then how do you know when you've actually found him? I know that when a theist says "turn to him" that usually means prayer, but if your prayers result in no resolution, then what do you do? You may blame yourself for not doing it right, and you will have no trouble enlisting others to tell you the same, but who is really qualified, and where is it written down just how exactly to appeal to your god? This cannot be any easier when you have doubts on his very existence, which would be for good reason when he never speaks back to you. If you do get answers, then this is where you should really be careful - how do you know it wasn't just your own mind reflecting back at you while your hands were folded (or whatever it is you do while praying), and that it wasn't necessarily the purest part your mind which took the lead?

Why do you really feel the need to put so much stock in any sort of "objective" way as guidance? Are you still a child that you need a parent to decide for you the difference between right and wrong? If you are a normal adult, then you shouldn't have any problems with your own subjective conscience working cohesively in a functioning society. AND, you are afraid of society, as you were taught to fear it by those who programmed your mind when it was very young to heed only them, who you were made to trust had a direct line to the best sources of all that is good and right. Truth is that society exists because most of us want it, and most of us want it because we basically think alike (therefore we want it). Problems happen when groups create needless causes of division among those who must share a society, many who decide they don't have to share it with the "heathen" or "infidels" or worse, and so they won't. So if you want peace, you need to discover the truth of human nature, by allowing yourself to discover how true it is that the majority of us make as much right in our world as possible, practice as much altruism as is possible, and love as much as is possible. We do this by nature, not by objective standards. The idea of non-subjectivity in rules written by fellow mortal humans (no evidence exists for anyone standing above us) is pointlessly fantastical anyway, while the idea that instructions for those who aren't normal human beings will change them is foolishly naive. Anyway, those who follow the words of and live according to the mandates of goat-herders or camel-drivers will be living all too much the backward life of the same. Chances are your own ideas are better than either the ancient dung-covered prophets, or of mainstream society, and maybe they are worth pursuing with others who would agree on them as pathways to social improvement. So let them be!