(January 9, 2016 at 4:03 pm)Godschild Wrote:(January 9, 2016 at 2:51 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Yep, there it is, right on cue. The "no true Scotsman" fallacy. "You don't believe anymore? Well then you never REALLY believed in the first place."
In one sentence, it 1) allows the responder to feel superior, that they have belief (and therefore, the love and special favor of an omnipotent sky-daddy) and you, poor deluded ignorant scum, do not, and 2) to immediately and quickly dismiss any hint of a possibility that there could be any logical reason for your statement of disbelief. They are not even capable of considering that the brainwashing that they are still reinforcing within themselves could possibly be broken - rather easily - in anyone else, much less the possibility of that being a positive thing.
The typical atheist response, because a Christian can tell when someone is not genuine it just bothers atheist something terrible. I have a hard time understanding why it bothers you, you don't believe there is a God so by this admission I would have to be total correct in your book. I don't and never have felt superior to anyone else including, to be in a relationship with God one has to have a humble heart. I can promise you this you nor anyone else could ever cause me not to know God is real. Your impolite wording towards God and myself show your childish mind.
GC
Well, first, that sentence made utterly no sense. And the "no true Scotman" fallacy is real. You could not possibly tell whether OldBaby was ever a true believer, because you never met OldBaby in real life, and you never had any type of contact with him in his worship activities. Therefore, you are making a false judgment about a person that you have never met, solely on the basis that they now say they no longer believe what YOU believe. He was just saying that he is no longer a xtian.
Oh right. A xtian can tell when someone is not genuine. Right. Tell that to my mother, who followed one preacher after another, only to have to move to the next church because the guy had been raping all of the middle-school girls or having affairs with three married women at one time. Tell that to the people at the church where I work, who were taken in by a charming priest who is now in jail for child molestation. Tell that to the elderly couples who have given their savings to a TV millionaire preacher who is laughing all the way to the bank.
No, GC, you can't tell. And you don't know OldBaby, so your judgment of his belief or lack of belief is rude, completely false, and serves only one purpose: to stroke your own overblown ego and to protect your own delusions.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
