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Mock dialogue of the Theist/Atheist discussion here.

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RE: Mock dialogue of the Theist/Atheist discussion here.

January 10, 2016 at 12:43 pm

(January 10, 2016 at 12:41 pm)Jenny A Wrote:
(January 10, 2016 at 12:25 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Yes you can't know everything through pure reason. That is different then to say you can't know/prove anything with pure reason.

True, but the more nuanced phrasing won't help you prove god: you can't prove anything about reality with pure reason. To prove anything about reality you must have data. Pure logical systems such as math and formal logic do not expand our knowledge of what is in the real world, though they are of great use in analyzing facts in the real world.

I'm sorry, by reality, you mean God particularly? I think Aristotle did through pure reason. Refuting what is proven by reason by saying you can't prove anything about reality by pure reason is rather circular is it not? Reason is part of reality unless you are not real.

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