(January 10, 2016 at 11:26 am)MysticKnight Wrote:(January 10, 2016 at 11:20 am)Old Baby Wrote: When I was a believer, I never bothered trying to get nonbelievers to validate my reasons for believing. I think you have to ask yourself why this is important to you.
Hmm....and you ended up leaving faith. On the other hand, dialogue with people of different faiths as well as Atheists, has lead me to stronger faith in my religion (Even though I left it for five years).
I feel this non-dialogue, I will just rely on my own reasoning/subjective experience, if there is a true religion is not the way God wanted us to go about it.
I think rational dialogue is the means to come to agreement. Not everyone can we expect to walk into the door of light and see everything he needs to see and that's it, leave it that, you either in or out.
Rather I believe we ought to have rational dialogue. But the reason why we disagreeing, is because are not going about this sincerely.
So the solution is a change of attitude towards dialogue.
You can't have rational dialogue about beliefs you hold when the beliefs themselves are irrational.
I did have dialogue with atheists when I was a believer, but that's different than what you're doing. I never expected atheists to validate my rationality. When you have a group that believes you have centered your beliefs around mythology, they're not going to acknowledge that there's anything rational about you.
At this point your only option is to bring forth the actual evidence that your beliefs are rational. We must all be able to look at your evidence and agree that it corroborates your faith. If we can't do that, and you insist that it's the atheists who are in denial, then you should be able to just walk away and dismiss us as beings living in denial. At that point we would no longer be worth your efforts to attempt rational dialogue.
