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Mock dialogue of the Theist/Atheist discussion here.

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RE: Mock dialogue of the Theist/Atheist discussion here.

January 10, 2016 at 3:48 pm (This post was last modified: January 10, 2016 at 3:48 pm by Mr.wizard.)

(January 10, 2016 at 3:44 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(January 10, 2016 at 3:35 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: How are you measuring this value?

I'm not measuring much like I'm not measuring the moon when I see (have no idea how big it is unless I read it somewhere and even then have no idea). However I can perceive that I have objective value. It's more like a sort of scent of that value I have but I don't know it. That said knowing I am not the one who determines my value/worth, then something else is has to explain where I get my objective value from.

Like Jenny A said, if put to the test of subjective beings, these things value/worth/beauty/justice/goodness all can't be objective. So you tell me, how do you think you have this value?

Jenny A said she didn't. I think she believes in subjective value. But we will see if that is an oxymoron without belief in objective value.

Of course value is subjective, what the hell are you talking about

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