RE: Morality versus afterlife
January 15, 2016 at 11:36 am
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2016 at 11:53 am by robvalue.)
I'll say this though, that's the first time anyone has event attempted to give an example of "objective morality" in action. So credit for that.
However, what we have here, from our point of view, is an arbitrary list of things to do and not to do, decided by a book. That's just one possible method of morality out of an infinite amount. And it's been subjectively chosen by those who follow it. What I consider important for morality is entirely different. So as morality is not a well defined term, there can't be just one "objective morality" without defining morality to simply be that thing, unless you can somehow demonstrate one system to be "better" than another. Before you can even begin to attempt something like that, you'd need to agree what the goals of morality are. And already, we disagree.
And I'd say any arbitrary system like the above is entirely useless in practice, except for the purpose of trying to please the character in the book.
It also fails as soon as a situation falls outside the scope of the text; and that's assuming the text can be clearly and obviously understood objectively, which Christians everywhere have shown it cannot.
However, what we have here, from our point of view, is an arbitrary list of things to do and not to do, decided by a book. That's just one possible method of morality out of an infinite amount. And it's been subjectively chosen by those who follow it. What I consider important for morality is entirely different. So as morality is not a well defined term, there can't be just one "objective morality" without defining morality to simply be that thing, unless you can somehow demonstrate one system to be "better" than another. Before you can even begin to attempt something like that, you'd need to agree what the goals of morality are. And already, we disagree.
And I'd say any arbitrary system like the above is entirely useless in practice, except for the purpose of trying to please the character in the book.
It also fails as soon as a situation falls outside the scope of the text; and that's assuming the text can be clearly and obviously understood objectively, which Christians everywhere have shown it cannot.
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