(January 27, 2016 at 2:36 pm)Drich Wrote:(January 27, 2016 at 1:47 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Spoken like a true sociopath. You see in the case of Osama, he used the same moral system you propose, which instead of being built on empathy its built on absolute morals. You see if you use empathy and reason to try to see out another eyes, and then use rational thinking to reason out how to treat them. This works well for a moral system to go through your daily life, and works well when combined with moral utilarianism to apply to larger situations. Unfortunately your Bible falls flat on both counts because it causes suffering on a personal level by stifling expression and on a larger level causes division just like what you named above. Morality utilitarian system ground in rational thought and empathy has the precise opposite effect. It encourages unity for the betterment of everyone and free expression.
What part of EMPATHY is a Propaganda controlled response do you not get?
I gave several examples where society THIS SOCEITY has taken away all basic human rights to several different groups of people and has or is working to obliterate them!
This is NO Different than what Osama did. That's what Empthay is! It's sympathy for those in whom you've been trained to identify with. Take away their humanity with mindless propaganda and all empathy ceases.
Empathy is not a propaganda controlled response, if it was then it would not appear in all societies. The examples you described are examples of the suspension of empathy. Also sympathy and empathy are separate things, empathy is the ability to understand the thoughts and feelings of others. If you notice, all attempts in the past to wipe out others groups were followed with dehumanizing propoganada, that not manipulating empathy, its trying to make it go away all together. What's more is that your morality system openly brags about murdering entire groups and is proud of it.
You make it clear in this statement that you have never experienced empathy before, as you defined as sympathy for those you've been trained to identify with. Did you know that children as young as 3 understand that when you hit someone else it hurts? And that this has been present in every culture where children have been observed. Now of course through how your raised this basic empathy is turned off, but its easy to discover again if you try to understand another person from a rational point of veiw. However I can't help but feel that discribing empathy to you is like describing color to a blind man.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
