(January 27, 2016 at 2:43 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(January 27, 2016 at 2:31 pm)Drich Wrote: all of that is Very nice... now answer the questions I ask.
If you were born In 1920's Germany and grew up under those conditions, would have been a good little German and fell into what the rest of society was doing?
If you don't think so, what is it about your currently value system that would transcend time and space and keep you from marching jews into death camps?
Not all Germans were nasty you know, some of them had a conscience and opposed the Nazis many coming to a sticky end. But many people did rather evil things because their own morality was circumvented by strong motivators like nationalism, politics and religion. The army had also had to make an oath to Adolf Hitler which people took seriously back then.
But my point and question is... (the point) The Germans of Nazi Germany did not see themselves as evil (the vast majority) Because their pop morality told them what they were doing was right! They could not challenge this because they had removed all absolutes of God and repplaced them with state written propaganda (and they used science just like we do) to justify their efforts and changes. Their only measure of right and wrong/their morality was corrupt by the state. so what ever the state said was always right and what it said was wrong was always wrong.. Again much like where we are now.
(the question)
So how then do we know in this soceity who like Nazi German has separated the state from God, have not made an 'evil' left turn like the nazi's did? Is it because your 'morality' says you are a good person? If so, I point back to the germans of Hitler's germany... They too thought they were all good people. and what they were doing was right, because they like us have nothing absolute to judge our pop morality by.
So then I ask again, what would stop you from following the path of the people of Nazi germany if pop morality made a hard left into evil?
What makes you think we haven't long ago made that turn, and their just hasn't been an 'allied force' to stop us?