Morality versus afterlife

[robvalue]

Fine, you won't define them. End of conversation then I guess.

I suspect your meaning of the words is very different to mine, hence the question. We're discussing the very fundamentals of morality, without you being willing to even define what you personally mean by it. If it's so obvious, why not spell it out for me? We could use my definition, but you're likely to just disagree with it, so...

The problem, when discussing morality with a religious person, is precisely this point. If you can't or won't define them, then you make my point for me.