pop morality

[Drich]

"1 thess 5:21
Question ALL Things and Hold on to what is Good!
This does not mean question only the questionable, it means question the foundational.. How is it do you think I can answer your questions if I first did not ask them myself?"

So i'm suppose to just take your version of things because you did all the asking for me?  We are humans and so naturally will think at least somewhat differently on most subjects. Also what is the difference between the "questionable" and the "foundational"?  Anything that can be imagined, like God, can be questioned (gasp!).

When did I say any of that? I provided an example of me questioning God and Him answering me. The Verse is a charge to 'Question all things and to hold on to what is Good.' If you ask God you will get the same answers.

your version of "it our fault and not God's" sounds a lot like being a victim in an abusive relationship.  I question the "morality" of living in guilt.

Do not ignore this next question.. Where did I say it is our fault Ever?
You guys make me ill with your generic christian questions rather than any original thought that addresses what it is I've brought to the table. Do you think I am selling what those types of charges were designed to silence? Then why use them?

No i didn't study theology for 15 years since i had to put my learning pursuits to something more practical and real so that i could earn a living.

what makes you think I hadn't?

 However, it does not mean that i can't think for myself and see clearly that morality is something you choose everyday.

then why do your arguments look like everyone elses who holds a similar position?

 We are human and that limitation is to be reckoned with.  It is by far better than making up a fiction about sin, guilt, blood sacrifice, and punishment. It is also far better to learn from the past by not repeating the mistakes instead of going back to the same way of thinking that has caused suffering in this world.

Ironically you are describing your version of Morality. EVERYTHING I am trying to show you people is the oppsite of what you have just describes and yet, you still assume God wants any of the things you just mentioned.

Don't give me that "chapter and verse" song and dance.  You know very well that the one thing that all christian teaching has in common is that we are damned to hell due to Eve's choice of knowledge over obedience and the only way out is to cow tow to Christ.  From what i have seen the Christian "morality" starts and ends with that.

No, How many times do I have to say this?!?!
I do not teach or advocate original sin. Paul tells us we all have our very own 'eve' moment the first time we truly understand right and wrong, and choose to sin anyway. In my Romans study I go into this in some detail as Paul explains all of this. Bottom line is Eve sinned and so too did Adam have his own 'eve moment.' which simply passed an ability to identify sin. (The Tree of knoweledge of Good and evil) Because we have this cognitive ability to identify sin and know it is outside of God's expressed will, we then are responsible for the sin we commit. Unless we accept atonement.

That said 'christian morality' is just as bad as any other form. What I am discussing here is a form of righteousness not based on 'moral acts.' That is why all your arguments fail. You are talking about replacing one set of rules for another. I'm talking about what God provided, the removal of consequence for all rules.