(January 31, 2016 at 3:13 pm)robvalue Wrote: The problem is agreeing what "morality" even means, with a religious person. They often seem to want it to be somehow to do with wellbeing and doing what God wants at the same time.
But these are either contradictory in parts, or else the God part is redundant. We know what is good for wellbeing. We don't need to be told it by an old book. I've managed to be considerate of people's wellbeing my whole life, and I didn't read any of the bible until a few years ago. So clearly it's not required to even read the book to get its "power", which makes me wonder what the point of it is.
Slavery, rape, genocide based on voices in your head are clearly not good for wellbeing in general, so at this point what "God says" becomes irrelevant. I already do the actual good things the bible has to say, and like any nice Christian, I ignore the bad parts.
See above.
You all still do not understand you can not judge anything based on a flexible standard. Your morality is a flexible standard..
To judge an absolute with some thing that varies from person to person will mean it will always fall short or be too much except in the very rare case the two coincidentally line up.