(February 1, 2016 at 2:41 pm)Drich Wrote:(February 1, 2016 at 2:13 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: I'm just confused on why the absolute standard of God changes as humanity progresses...
Please explain WTF sin is if it is not violation of the OT laws. Because it seems quite clear that's exactly what sin is. Turns out that you recognize the Torah was written by a bunch of savages, so you conclude that Jesus must've died for something else? But what? Are you saying this:
1. Jesus tells us that his father made garbage laws, and Jesus invents new ones
2. Jesus dies for our transgressions against the new laws he invented
Does that sum it up?
No. Sin is anything not in the expressed will of God. This includes action and thought. Jesus did not change the Law He completed it. Meaning he expanded it to include thought, and to provide atonement that would cover all sin.. That way Everyone could self identify as being in sin all the time. Thus requiring a need for a new way to God's righteousness. (Atonement) rather than 'moral actions.'
Their is a difference between the OT and NT because after atonement we are free from the law as a means to define our righteousness. Yet the Law remains to judge those who do not have atonement.
That said Paul tells us not all of us can understand or handle this freedom in its unrestricted form. So for those who need 'rules and morality' He gave us a basic set, and told us if anything falls out of this basic set and we think it is a sin then for us it is a sin and shall be treated as such. However not all are bound by those rules, but to those who weren't, we were given a warning not to do something in front of our weaker brothers to cause them to sin or do something in their mind was a sin. Lest we be judged harshly for causing our weaker brothers to stumble.
Paul's basic guideline set simply reflect the life we naturally begin to live once we have sought atonement.
1. "Jesus did not change the Law He completed it. Meaning he expanded it to include thought, and to provide atonement that would cover all sin."
2. The law allows for rape, pedophilia, and fornication; also it expressly consents to slavery
3. Jesus condones these things
4. These things are part of God's moral absolutes
Let's see that backpedaling now.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.