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My anti-theistic perspective
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RE: My anti-theistic perspective
(February 1, 2016 at 4:13 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(February 1, 2016 at 3:04 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:  What other possible reason might there be? Religion is demonstrably bad in that it inspires division among people, it encourages dogma and it opposes rational thinking by its very nature. And that's only off the top of my head. All we do here all day is criticise religion. How can one do that and at the same time claim he isn't an antitheist is beyond me. An atheist that is not an antitheist - that would be the exception, not the rule. An implausible one if you ask me, once said atheist learns certain things about religion's impact in human affairs throughout history.

Now then, there are degrees of antitheism to be considered here. I might be more antitheistic than some and less than others. All that proves is more or less empathy and or ignorance on my part concerning humans and, respectively, religion's influence upon the world. 

Again I'll draw the line for you between religion and organized religion. The Catholic Church has caused a ton of war and bloodshed throughout history. Islam is currently causing a ton of war and bloodshed. But not all religion is harmful, and sometimes it is actually beneficial. I recommend you read The Way of the Human Being by Calvin Luther Martin. He examines how the religious and spiritual beliefs of the Yup'ik peoples allowed them to live in a peaceful harmony among each other and wild animals. He describes how the Yupiit identify as different animals, and how their spirit can leave their body and join the animals if they so desire.  He describes a world where the ecosystem relies on a mutual respect between man and animal, and the purity and spirituality of the natives dictated whether or not the animals would give themselves up for the peoples’ survival, etc etc. However, over the years they lost those beliefs and their society turned to shambles. The Yupiit of today are plagued with poverty, depression, sucicide, alcoholism, and high incarceration rates. The respect within the society that their religion gave them is no longer there and they are worse off because of it.

You can't sit there and tell me that all religion is bad simply because that's just not true.

Yes ALL RELIGIONS ARE BAD...........

Now, that really isn't any different than saying a volcano is bad. No you can't get rid of the volcano, but to take your eyes off of it would be stupid. Most of the time they are dormant and look pretty, but so what. Nobody is saying you can or should force them out of existence.

Some religions seem more peaceful because we chose to view them that way, and at our current point in history some make less trouble than others. But there has never in the history of our species a single religion that has produced 100% universal global peace, and not even within the same labels is there no conflict or competing sects, all of them have divisions even in the same labels.

Religion is a bad idea as a human invented construct. It gets humans to ignore that we are NOT a separate species. Now while I said before, you certainly cannot, nor should use force to end it, but it must be treated as the poison to human discourse it is, otherwise you won't be able to keep it to a more civil degree.

Every nation friend and foe alike all have prisons and hospitals. Holding a religion does not make it valid, it merely means one likes the religion they have. Our source of morality is in our evolution, not holy books or the religious clubs we belong to.

Saying religion does good, well yea, they all claim that. And that should tell humans that our capability for compassion is in us, not religion itself. But as long as religion exists, which I don't see it going away completely, it can be managed to more civil degree by recognizing the bad it does to human thought.
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My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 1, 2016 at 3:09 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Losty - February 1, 2016 at 3:24 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 1, 2016 at 9:41 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Losty - February 1, 2016 at 9:47 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Thumpalumpacus - February 1, 2016 at 3:33 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Losty - February 1, 2016 at 3:35 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by drfuzzy - February 1, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Thumpalumpacus - February 1, 2016 at 1:10 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by emjay - February 1, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Catholic_Lady - February 1, 2016 at 6:07 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Thumpalumpacus - February 1, 2016 at 6:49 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 1, 2016 at 9:43 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Losty - February 1, 2016 at 9:45 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 1, 2016 at 9:48 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Catholic_Lady - February 1, 2016 at 10:00 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 1, 2016 at 10:04 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Catholic_Lady - February 1, 2016 at 10:08 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 1, 2016 at 10:11 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 1, 2016 at 10:17 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Catholic_Lady - February 1, 2016 at 10:38 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 1, 2016 at 10:47 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Catholic_Lady - February 1, 2016 at 11:45 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Ivan Denisovich - February 2, 2016 at 3:16 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 2, 2016 at 11:18 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Ivan Denisovich - February 2, 2016 at 2:15 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by GodCherry - February 2, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 2, 2016 at 4:03 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by GodCherry - February 2, 2016 at 4:12 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Thumpalumpacus - February 2, 2016 at 12:12 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 2, 2016 at 12:19 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Thumpalumpacus - February 2, 2016 at 2:59 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 2, 2016 at 3:13 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Thumpalumpacus - February 2, 2016 at 3:26 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 2, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 2, 2016 at 1:51 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Thumpalumpacus - February 2, 2016 at 2:41 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Aegon - February 1, 2016 at 10:39 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 1, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by drfuzzy - February 2, 2016 at 12:02 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by FatAndFaithless - February 2, 2016 at 12:05 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 2, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Aegon - February 1, 2016 at 12:11 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Brian37 - February 1, 2016 at 12:59 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Thumpalumpacus - February 1, 2016 at 1:10 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Brian37 - February 1, 2016 at 1:29 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Thumpalumpacus - February 1, 2016 at 5:53 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 1, 2016 at 10:34 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 1, 2016 at 10:38 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 1, 2016 at 10:53 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 1, 2016 at 10:58 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 1, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 1, 2016 at 11:06 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Brian37 - February 1, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Thumpalumpacus - February 1, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Chad32 - February 1, 2016 at 1:25 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 1, 2016 at 1:35 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by brewer - February 1, 2016 at 2:14 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 1, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by brewer - February 2, 2016 at 3:18 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by houseofcantor - February 1, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2016 at 1:58 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 1, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Athene - February 1, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Ravenshire - February 2, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Edwardo Piet - February 2, 2016 at 4:41 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2016 at 2:55 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 1, 2016 at 3:04 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Aegon - February 1, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Brian37 - February 1, 2016 at 6:29 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2016 at 3:13 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 1, 2016 at 3:15 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2016 at 10:05 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 1, 2016 at 10:09 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Thumpalumpacus - February 2, 2016 at 2:42 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Whateverist - February 2, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Ravenshire - February 2, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Meandering Atheist -J- - February 1, 2016 at 10:09 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 1, 2016 at 10:10 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Cecelia - February 2, 2016 at 12:03 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Catholic_Lady - February 2, 2016 at 12:05 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Cecelia - February 2, 2016 at 12:29 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Catholic_Lady - February 2, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 2, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 2, 2016 at 12:50 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 2, 2016 at 1:59 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 2, 2016 at 2:02 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 2, 2016 at 2:12 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 2, 2016 at 2:14 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 2, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by brewer - February 2, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Losty - February 3, 2016 at 6:41 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Excited Penguin - February 2, 2016 at 3:14 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Catholic_Lady - February 2, 2016 at 8:14 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by LastPoet - February 2, 2016 at 2:11 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Catholic_Lady - February 2, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by paulpablo - February 2, 2016 at 4:10 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by abaris - February 2, 2016 at 4:50 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 2, 2016 at 4:56 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Ravenshire - February 2, 2016 at 4:58 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 2, 2016 at 5:07 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Aegon - February 2, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Ravenshire - February 2, 2016 at 5:29 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Aegon - February 2, 2016 at 5:43 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Ravenshire - February 2, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by paulpablo - February 2, 2016 at 10:53 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 5:14 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 3, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 5:11 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Brian37 - February 3, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Edwardo Piet - February 3, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 7:58 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Edwardo Piet - February 3, 2016 at 8:09 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Edwardo Piet - February 3, 2016 at 8:14 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 3, 2016 at 8:16 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 3:47 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 8:16 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Edwardo Piet - February 3, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 8:24 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Edwardo Piet - February 3, 2016 at 8:26 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 8:28 pm
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 4, 2016 at 1:03 am
RE: My anti-theistic perspective - by Edwardo Piet - February 4, 2016 at 12:41 am

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