(February 1, 2016 at 8:10 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(February 1, 2016 at 1:01 pm)Drich Wrote: OMG...
NO! for the 1000th time NO!
It's an absolute, NOT meant to be followed or looked at as a 'moral guide!"
It's only purpose is to identify sin and lay out the plan for atonement.
Once atoned/saved the Law ONLY judges the Unatoned/sinners.
For the Save it serves as a mile marker for the changes you will automatically want to undergo, but won't be able to complete in this life.
NOT A MORAL STANDARD.
The rest of your argument is crap!
actually no one told you to go on the merry go round... You are just pulling out all the old tricks to try and refute what you can't seem to grasp...
I got an idea! Instead of just rambling off good olde atheist standby arguements that give you all such great comfort, how abouts asking a question rather than putting me in a position where I have to decide how to call you stupid with out setting you off all the time. How about asking a question, and stop assuming you know the basics of a religion you clearly know very little about. How about stop doing your victory lap over some other race you won, and maybe for once speak on point/get back into this race.
So, if god's word isn't meant to be a moral standard then wtf was the point of your thread?! Your whole condescending assertion was that people who don't believe in God can't possibly establish their own internal moral standard, correct? I'm lost as to the point you are trying to make...
target lock again... You were sooooooooooooo busy being right about empathy you lost sight of where the thread went.
The point of the thread is two fold. One show the contrast between God's absolutes and mans morality (ALL Morality even religious morality) Allowing me to explain why morality is not a standard to be used to judge right and wrong/Is not what God is looking for in us or from us. And why you 'good people' should not rely on it to define your 'righteousness.'
And Two, to point to an existence lived through atonement. which is what God wanted for all of us. To set us apart from rules and law to define our righteousness. to explain a life lived in righteousness is the real freedom you all pretend to have living good 'moral' lives without God.
God only uses His law to judge those who have not accepted the atonement offered by Christ. In biblical Christianity it is explain several times that we (Christians) are not defined or judged by our morality, but by our obedience to accept the atonement offered. Those who do not accept Christ's gift are however judged by their 'morality' and like the Pharisees will be found wanting.
Christ took THE most holy and religious group apart by their seams using their own hypocrisy and morality as His guidelines. Just like how I show you the 'relabeling' of nazi like persecution in modern society Christ took the 'morals' of the pharisees and showed them their own double standard and judged them by their own rules... So too will the 'moral' be judged.