pop morality

[Drich]

But again, Morality is an act or deed we do or do not do... The atonement offered is what Christ/God did on the cross. We had nothing to do with this as we donot did not bring about our own atonement. How is atonement another form of morality?

Oh bullshit, Drich.  Your response to sin is to shuck off your responsibilities in this world for belief in a solution by magic.  That is what you suggest we do and it's immoral.  You can judge the morality of such a system.  And your god's standard is only absolute in the sense that it doesn't change.  That's dogma, not a code of morals, as evidenced by Christians moving away from it over time.  Exactly what is or is not moral is not defined by a biblical set of laws; nor is what requires a response defined by such a code.  That's just the primitive pop morality of a primitive people.  No god involved.

Who said I am shucking responsibilities?

The atonement is only 1/2 of what I said.

The other half does include behavior modification.

The modification is not the cause of our righteousness, it is the effect of putting on the righteousness/atonement of Christ. The bible/Gospel is not a call to work a certain way to obtain 'morality' (for the lack of a better term) It is how to obtain the Righteous of Christ for ourselves and once we are clothed or put on the righteousness of Christ we naturally change or at first start pushing in that direction.

Now where morality differs from this is if we want sin or cant stop sinning morality/self righteousness changes the status of God's sin and makes it ok. so that we can be 'good people' and not feel bad about anything. Homosexuality is a good example of that.

 The Gospel would have us identify the sin and let it remain a sin, and seek atonement. Now does this change who we are before God? No. we are still sinners who have always fallen short and always will fall short of His Righteousness, if we are judged BY OUR OWN ACTIONS. But the thing is, it's not our (christian) actions He Judges. It's whether or not we accepted Christ. If we have, the bonus is we will change and be more Christ like, not because we have to.. it's because when we are fill with the Spirit it pours out of us. Will we be sinless? no. Paul himself says he did not stand a chance no matter how much he prayed/tried. Does this mean we will not owe a debt to society if we break a law? No again paul was jailed many times doing what God wanted, but it violated man's law, he was even ultimately executed because of his work.

What this ultimately means is we are not all judged by the artificial standards you want to place on everything. a standard so corrupt you all have no idea how corrupt it really is till a society stronger than your society kicks your asses and tells you how wrong/evil you all were. That yes while some of us put on morality as the rules that bind us to soceity, we all do not have to live that way.