RE: Still struggling.
February 8, 2016 at 7:51 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2016 at 7:54 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 8, 2016 at 6:55 pm)GeneralDog Wrote: I came here a few days ago saying I had converted from Christian to Atheist, but was doubting a lot. I also mentioned I had OCD which may be contributing to the problem.
What problem?
Quote:Heres an update.Entirely to be expected. I've never been a believer myself, but I get these sorts of thoughts all the time. Just not about gods. If you -didn't- have this experience, you'd almost categorically be suffering some sort of deep seated break.
1) The doubt is gone, but I still get this nagging feeling. My brain was condition to believe in god, and me trying to condition me otherwise is very difficult.
Quote:2) I started listening to the logical side of my brain. My OCD has been less 'triggersome' lately and I feel a lot better. I was able to dismiss thoughts that disturbed me so. Like "god's real, satan has got you". Instead of listening to my emotions, I listened to the logic side of my brain saying "There is no evidence for god. Theres evidence for evolution. Carbon Dating, Fossils, among other things. 2 stories of the bible had been proven false to me (Noahs Ark and Adam and Eve) so the rest will follow."All incidental in the end. Both camps present what they wish for you to consider evidence and you probably don't have much of a choice as to what you accept from either group. You are either convinced, or you are not...regardless, in any direction.
Quote:Still, this nagging feeling. Whenever there is a coincidence, like lately I've been seeing god being mentioned more "gods trying to help you". I would say "It's psychological. gods not 'appearing' more, I'm just noticing it more due to my stuggle." The nagging feeling goes away for a minute and then comes back.I have this same experience, again despite having never been a believer. I would describe it the same way..except it's never "god" but "the cosmos", or any number of names that humanity has given the same. We're both human, we're both pattern seekers and projectors.
Quote:My brain is still using indoctrination. My parents are wondering if I am an atheist, I can tell. I am scared they will convert me. My brother converted to atheism a bit ago and now they converted him back. He now says "I have zero doubt about god.". I now say "I am just as sure that god isn't any more real than fairies and santa."-and it always will. Any moment in your life that you feel you've escaped indoctrination is a moment in which you are completely and fundamentally wrong.
Quote:I can combat my old personal expirence with god though. I was listening to christian music in 7th grade and I got this feeling of motivation and happiness. Now I say "People have a personal relationship with buddha and allah, if you believe in something, you will get motivated by it. Christian songs are designed to be motivational in nature also, with violins and upbeat, high, catchy tunes. I still get that nagging feeling tho.Nothing, it's normal. I love gospel music and devotionals too. It's catchy/pretty. Hit me jesus one more time!
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