pop morality

[Drich]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_q...+abortions
educate yourself fool.

The point is the this soceity condones infanticide under a different name. Third trimester abortions are relevant because 80% of all premature births as early as week 25 are viable babies. just FYI 25th week is in the second trimester, that means by the third they are fully formed human babies.
That means for the sake of this analogy they are fully functional completely assembled cars, waiting for delivery.
https://www.ucsfhealth.org/conditions/pr...sters.html

So what a million? 10 million?? 100 Million? a billion In the WHole bible that spans 4 or 5000 years??
how about 1.4 billion since 1980. In just 36 years we have more than likely doubled/quadrupled  All of the infant deaths that anyone could ever attribute to God, and yet Idiots claim god is a monster because he kills babies...
This is what Jesus meant by take the friggen plank out of your eye before you worry about the speck in the eye of your neighbor.
http://www.numberofabortions.com/
You keep calling me shameless... what's actually shameful is you appealing to my modesty when you do not want to look at immoral truths of pop culture/morality that would force you to reconsile the propaganda you have adopted that affords you the level of self righteousness you lord over everyone and every thing that challenges your 'moral security.'

That sport is shame full or rather you should be ashamed of hiding from the truth just because it challenges your 'moral foundation.'

A 'moral foundation' that you yourself can not live up to. a 'moral foundation' that you will be judged by, and be found wanting.

Yeah, I guess I'd be trying to shut down the conversation too if someone hit a never that close to home. I'd call everything they believe into question and I would try and shame them off topic as well.

Nice try, but no. the facts remain, and if you don't like talking about them then i suggest that you find someone else to try and defend you morality to them. Maybe they will let you manipulate the topic so you are not faced with a hard reality to answer for.


You people Kill babies as a form of birth control, giving no thought to who this child is or is to become. it's all about the convenience of having a child.

I just have to ask... how dishonest do you feel when you skew numbers like that?

According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, an abortion-rights research group that conducts surveys of the nation's abortion doctors, about 15,000 abortions were performed in the year 2000 on women 20 weeks or more along in their pregnancies; the vast majority were between the 20th and 24th week. Of those, only about 2,200 D&X abortions were performed, or about 0.2 percent of the 1.3 million abortions believed to be performed that year.

And contrary to the claims of some abortion opponents, most such abortions do not take place in the third trimester of pregnancy, or after fetal "viability." Indeed, when some members of Congress tried to amend the bill to ban only those procedures that take place after viability, abortion opponents complained that would leave most of the procedures legal.

(Source: http://www.npr.org/2006/02/21/5168163/pa...-from-spin )

As with all things in this discussion, it comes down to a matter of balancing harms to society. I find it far worse to live in a society that treats sex like it's only for reproduction (or, worse, like reproduction is some kind of "penalty" for having sex) and forces women to carry any pregnancy to term or seek back-alley abortions.

But why are Christians against abortion, I always wonder? What's the Biblical basis for that?

Instead of complaining about the D&E ("partial birth") abortions that make up a fraction of a fraction of a percent (and are done only with the signatures of multiple doctors stating that the procedure is necessary), while pretending that it's really most of them... why aren't Christians complaining that we don't use the abortion method specifically spelled out in the Bible?

Look it up for yourself. Numbers 5 : 11-31.

Not my numbers were they? I provided source material for everything I mentioned, except what I freely admitted was speculation.

As far as what do Christians base their anti abortion stance on... IDK may you shall not murder.. Maybe you can start their. Oh, but that's right it's not murder because like I pointed out with the Nazis, and Indians at the time, the humanity required for 'murder' has been taken from these babies and it does not count... Oh, but wait doesn't that go back to what I said already about pop morality? In that a 'moral consensus' can justify any act, even one that has consumed over a billion babies, and no one will give it a second thought. So then my question "how would 'we' know that we ourselves have already taken an evil turn like the Nazis did, yet still consider ourselves 'good people'? (just like they did)" Was really retorchical because Abortion is indeed an example of a stomach turning evil that has killed far more BABIES than everyone killed in WWII.
http://www.numberofabortions.com/

So really the Nazi's have nothing on us.