(February 22, 2016 at 1:35 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(February 17, 2016 at 2:21 pm)Drich Wrote: Ah.. delusion...
Hey, 'smart guy' if Russia and China are the only two success stories of communism guess what!?!? THAT IS WHAT REAL COMMUNISM IS!!!! Despite What People Who Do Nothing More Than Discuss It Think!!!
There has never been a communist country as defined by Karl Marx, not one. So your pointing at China and Russia etc is of no real use. remember China is at this moment probably more capitalistic than the US and Russia and Korea they are bastardisations of the idea.
Their has never been a communist country defined by the book animal farm either (where literal pigs become the ruling class) so, then what's your point?
My point is the fact that communism always seems to break down into the 'animal farm pattern' (Per the two biggest examples China and Russia) means that, that particular incarnation of communism is the only one that works/is viable in the real world, so marx ideas be dammed, because in the end his ideas are little more than idealistic nonsense, that has been tried for over 100 years now with nary a successful example to prove his model.
I was asking for One Example one proven model of society not built or maintained on slavery. Marx's communism is not a viable example by your own admission, in that not one society has ever established that version as a working model. the only working models enslave ALL people to the government.