(February 22, 2016 at 3:07 pm)Jenny A Wrote:Again Jen-A,(February 22, 2016 at 11:18 am)Drich Wrote: If we could then he would no longer be God... However God has provided a path that if anyone were to follow would indeed Find Him.The illusion is god. Your view is entirely based on his existence. Until you show he exists, your point of view is fantasy.
I can promise you we (all bible believeing people Jew and Christian alike) agree on what God is.
God is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and end to all Things.
because they are quite easily dismissed.
No where did i say that?
Again God is Alpha and Omega. Righteousness is whatever God wants it to be.
Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
...And that is the point to this thread is it not? That if 'morality' is left unchecked it will spiral away from God's righteousness. Meaning IF morality becomes the standard then everything not like it can be condemned as evil.
Do you not understand the implication here? The implication being that ANYTHING even EVIL can be come 'good' and 'good' will be seen as Evil.
Just like the bible warns.
Again that was the reason I pointed to the nazis. None of them saw what they did as being evil. "pop Morality" in that soceity said it was 'moral' to send jews to death camps!!! None of them saw what they were doing as evil.
then like wise I have used several examples the modern soceity does that 'morality' deems God as evil allowing them in the bible, and yet modern soceity embraces these instances.
how so?
this is a good example of what I just said.
You said soceity has evolved away from: Rape, slavery and Genocide.
Again, I contend that all of these things are still present and accepted in today's society. They are just called something different now. So that older examples (Examples that do not comply with the modern defination/loop holes) can be condemned. Therefore allowing the self righteous to condemn God.
It's beyond imperfect. It is hypocritical.
do not tie our self worth to our 'morality.' Use morality as a guideline, but at the same time do not let other control you by making you adhear to current pop moral standards..
I can not believe how you still do not understand the basics of Christianity. That you still have no clue as to how it works..
"God's law' is NOT Meant to be followed. It is not a system of 'morality.'
Do You Understand this?
God's law is only set up to show we are all sinners and need atonement.
That is the alternative to 'morality.' Freedom from doing right or wrong things!!!
Because you have changed 'morality' to exclude God.
Don't you understand that is what self righteousness means?
That you based on what you think is right and wrong have created your own version of righteousness. That in essence is the very definition of 'morality.'
What's more this self righteousness is not better.. It does not exclude the acts you pretend to judge God 'immoral' by.. it simply changes the definitions. it hides your sin. You all still commit genocide, slavery, and kill babies. You just have different names. War on terror/terrorists, migrant workers, abortion. Again the act is the same, it's just 'morality' justifies your deeds. That is what makes 'moral people' hypocrites.'
How do you not understand that the sense of you being more evolved is only an illusion? YOU STILL DO THE SAME THINGS WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE! It's just called by different names.
If I could produce God on Demand He would not be God. I would be.
God has established a way for all who seek proof to COME TO HIM. He is not Going to you on your terms.