RE: Morality versus afterlife
February 29, 2016 at 11:34 am
(This post was last modified: February 29, 2016 at 11:47 am by The Grand Nudger.)
It doesn't -matter- whether or not Rob, or anyone else..thinks that throwing a baby in a wood chipper can be moral. He will only be reasserting his subjective moral opinion. That others consistently have and will -continue- to see things he sees as immoral, possibly even throwing babies in wood chippers, stranger things have happened, -as moral-.... is the very meaning of subjective morality.
Acknowledging that others agree or do not agree, or comparing two moral systems to decide which a person sees as superior, doesn't even -approach- an objective morality, and it's patently ridiculous for you to claim that people who have repeatedly stated that their morality is subjective act as though it is objective. How do they do that, praytell, while explicitly and repeatedly acknowledging that it isn't? Incoherence indeed......
Your example of stealing from your employer is conveniently simple and entirely non-representative of utilitarianism. Does it benefit society to be arranged such that theft is okay? No it does not. If it's "okay" for you to steal from your employer on the grounds you offered, it's "okay" for someone poorer than yourself to steal from you...and there will always be someone poorer in the chain..a never-ending trail of legitimized theft and harm. Well being, the greatest common good, has gone out of the window entirely in your example.
Acknowledging that others agree or do not agree, or comparing two moral systems to decide which a person sees as superior, doesn't even -approach- an objective morality, and it's patently ridiculous for you to claim that people who have repeatedly stated that their morality is subjective act as though it is objective. How do they do that, praytell, while explicitly and repeatedly acknowledging that it isn't? Incoherence indeed......
Your example of stealing from your employer is conveniently simple and entirely non-representative of utilitarianism. Does it benefit society to be arranged such that theft is okay? No it does not. If it's "okay" for you to steal from your employer on the grounds you offered, it's "okay" for someone poorer than yourself to steal from you...and there will always be someone poorer in the chain..a never-ending trail of legitimized theft and harm. Well being, the greatest common good, has gone out of the window entirely in your example.
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