(March 21, 2016 at 10:28 am)Drich Wrote:(March 19, 2016 at 7:01 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: In a way Drich is right. Science has nothing to do with god, science deals with things that exist and as has been proven by the theists total inability to even make a reasonable case for the possibility of a god. God only exists in the realm of fiction.
Actually close but still no.
Science deals with demonstrable theory. Their are many things said to exist in science that we do not know if they exist. For instance 'black holes', or Higgs/Boson Particle to name just two. Where these theories differ from God is that 'science' wants to believe, because it has formulated theories on how the universe works based on these (and other) unproven theories. Science needs these theories in order to separate itself from God. Granted the logic behind it is a little juvenile "If we can explain a natural process then somehow that negates a creator/God must always remain unknowable/unknown."
That said these theories are 'demonstrable' because science can indeed control or manipulate the process in which the theories themselves are vetted. God by definition is not subject to said control. therefore God can not nor ever will be quantified by 'science.' As Science will never ba able/allowed to manipulate God in such away as to have the control needed to be 'approved' by science.
We know that both the higgs boson and black holes exist. Science is the opposite of what you think it is, science is looking at the facts in as dispassionate away as possible, removing all preconceptions. What you were thinking about is religion, where people have tried to prove their pet idea that there is a god for millennia, failed and decided that because it can't be found it must be "outside of science". The answer should have been to throw out the idea.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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