RE: pop morality
March 24, 2016 at 11:32 am
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2016 at 11:33 am by drfuzzy.
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(March 24, 2016 at 11:06 am)Drich Wrote:(March 23, 2016 at 4:40 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: You clearly do not understand that the existence of a particle and the measuring of its attributes has already been accomplished. It fits the criteria for the Higgs and more research is being completed. There is no "faith" needed, we have data. No goalposts were moved, you clearly don't understand how science works. Pick up a magazine. Even Discover is good. Or even better, "Particle Fever" is on Netflix. It's a fabulous documentary.
How xtian of you to resort to insults and name-calling. That's the kind of behavior I expect from a preechur.
You can't be this stupid... seriously??? Did you not read the research the denmark team did? I posted it like 3 or 4 different times!!!
While they (Denmark team) agree the particle behaves as predicted, they also point out several other particles would also behave in the way that has been recorded... It is a leap of Faith to say what was recorded was the higgs boson because again what was recorded was the particle decay and not the actual particle. that is why i used the Con-trail metaphore. Contrail is like the particle decay recorded. Yes it is evidence of a plane/Particle, but to say that can-trail/particle decay was the higgs boson it like looking at a con trail from an air plane and saying it was from a Boeing 787. Yes it is possible but their are an entire Air fleet of other possibilities as well.
I used the Cern scientist example to show that ALL Science is funded, and the Cern project was falling under tremendous pressure as 6 Billion Euros were spent to find nothing more than what they already had. So the sold us a pig in a poke.
Of course Scientists are funded, from grants, from a number of sources. Most research is. It's important.
"A new study by a group of scientists from the University of Southern Denmark raises the possibility that the data collected from the Large Hadron Collider could instead explain another type of subatomic particle. Mads Toudal Frandsen, a particle physicist, explained in a statement, "The CERN data is generally taken as evidence that the particular particle is the Higgs particle ... It is true that the Higgs particle can explain the data but there can be other explanations, we would also get this data from other particles."
http://phys.org/news/2014-11-wasnt-higgs-particle.html
"What was found last year in CERN's accelerator could thus be either the Higgs particle of the Standard Model or a light techni-higgs particle, composed of two techni-quarks. Mads Toudal Frandsen believes that more data from CERN will probably be able to determine if it was a Higgs or a techni-higgs particle. If CERN gets an even more powerful accelerator, it will in principle be able to observe techni-quarks directly."
What I can't figure out is why you would think, for one second, that this research is a BAD thing. Why do you think it disproves that the Higgs was found, or means that the LHC is a waste of time and money? So why don't YOU explain to us what a Boson is, what a techni-quark is? Explain to us how they measure attributes like charge and spin. Why is this groundbreaking new data completely irrelevant, silly, and a waste of time?
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