(March 24, 2016 at 6:45 am)Won2blv Wrote:(March 23, 2016 at 11:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm glad it gets under your skin to see Christians trying to help those former ones if we can, means we are doing something correct.
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I would never join a religion like baptist. If I did believe in the god of the bible I know he would not approve of people adopting pagan religious customs into their religion. I know that he wouldn't support his people getting involved in political affairs of mankind. I know that Jesus is not god, but his son. I am still proud of JW's in a lot of areas, even if no one on this forum gives them any credit.
And for every one else that dogs religions as being equally as bad
JW's called out religions as a snare over a 100 years ago before it was cool
JW's have been persecuted and killed by Nazis and other political parties for their strict neutrality stance
JW's stay neutral in all political affairs, which means that they aren't trying to push their religious policies into your life through legislation
Of course they aren't perfect and there is the bullshit. But I am not trying to get out of my indoctrination by just having people tell me that all religion is bullshit so you're an idiot if you believe one word of the bible. Even the atheist bible, the skeptics annotated bible, has a section for "good stuff." So my op is simply on the fact that the statues feet simply describes a political world that we live in. I find it interesting that a guy 2500 years ago predicted a government that was ruled by the common people.
Before I give up on this thread, does anyone have any point or comment concerning that?
You haven't really pointed out anything about the truth of the religion here.
Many religions think of themselves as something other than a religion, so it's not that uncommon for any religion to decry "all religion" as a perversion of the real God's true will or some shit.
Plenty of religions get picked on for what they believe, so that's no indicator of truth, either, especially when the Nazis are the ones doing the picking (they persecuted, like, everyone).
Also, unless Jehovah's Witnesses abstain from voting, they are not politically neutral and their decisions can affect others. If you think people's sincerely held religious beliefs don't affect how they vote, you're kidding yourself.
The simple fact remains that all the actual "good" done by religions could be equally our better accomplished through secular means without using philanthropy as an excuse to indoctrinate vulnerable people into a death cult.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com