(March 31, 2016 at 12:33 am)Godschild Wrote:(March 29, 2016 at 8:20 pm)pocaracas Wrote: You know how all artists work?
How can they make something that didn't exist before? something no one knew about before...
Think: Beethoven's 9th Symphony..... Mozart's Alla Turca... Picasso's Guernica... Gaudi's Barcelona Cathedral...
Could it be that you have engaged a part of your brain that they had been aware of their all lives?
It's for those anecdotal accounts, that, if I'm ever to accept any evidence for a god, it will never be a sole presentation to my person... if this being is to be as universal as the believers claim, then it should present itself to all, equally.... not just me.... never just me. I'm aware of how fallible my brain is.
For something this universal, only ALL will do. Not some, not most... ALL.
And don't get me started on "prophets".... -.-'
I want get you started on anything if that's what you want, you've been presented with the truth of scriptures and it's your decision. I will say God has always intended for man to have a personal relationship with Him, it starts in Genesis and goes through the entire Bible. Not everyone will be presented the truth because they wouldn't accept it if God presented himself before them, they like you don't trust their own mind.
GC
Correction: I've been presented with scriptures. Yes, I have.
If their contents are true or not.... well.... that's another matter, isn't it?
Also.... what to say about other scriptures?
The Vedas?
The Qur'an?
Which are true? If any.... How to tell? What's the mechanism to ascertain the true scriptures? if any...
Also, how can you say anything about what "God has always intended"?? How would you know anything about that ever absent entity?
Oh... it starts in Genesis?... the same story as the unverified, unverifiable scriptures?
Please....
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I know that the human mind is fallible, it is riddled with perception mistakes, interpretation mistakes, biases, memory flaws, imaginative states, dreams, desires, susceptions... hallucinations. Why should I accept the word of a few people on an unverifiable entity, knowing full well that they are likely being victims of their own brain failings?
Certainly, we can all fall prey to our brains, but for all to do equally so at the same time would require a massive coincidence. That coincidence could convince me that it was of divine origin... but, as things stand, with each "ruler" imposing his own version of the divine, I am much more inclined to think that they have no connection whatsoever to any divine, but rather to their own desires, faultily interpreting them as an external divine force.... like you (and many like you) are faultily interpreting your desires and wishes as a "personal relationship".
Of course, you don't think you're at fault... you're completely convinced of that relationship status...and that's why some people will tell you that "religion poisons the mind".
Still, I can't say that, for the most part, it's a harmful poison. I'd say it's harmful in that it presents you with a faulty view of the world... but it's not too relevant for life to go on...