(April 4, 2016 at 3:04 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: We don't think theists are dumb;I've been a theist most of my life and I can indeed atest that most do indeed think 'theist are dumb.' a good example on 'how to stop Islam' the point of education came up a coouple different times.
Quote:we think they are blinded by their cult beliefs into rejecting sound, logical thinking far too often.
This I would agree with. however this also works in the oppsite way as well, in that logical thinking stops when an atheist is inturn put into a corner. Then "kill the messenger" (discredit the person who is bring you a conflicting message by identifying them as dumb.)
Quote:The skeptic encounters something they don't understand and they either admit they cannot understand it, or they learn it.
Quote:You didn't "take her to school", you taught her something.I know you've never been exposed to 'street talk' before but the term 'taking someone to school' means to show them that they were wrong.. Yo.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph...+to+school
(which means I just took you to school SON!)
Quote:(Or rather, she taught herself when she encountered something she didn't know.) As a member of the religion which literally invented the Gregorian calendar, you have a distinct advantage over someone who doesn't belong to that religion, in terms of being likely to know that particular piece of information.Which is EXACTLY Why I took the time to identify the calender in which she was using as the Gregorian Calendar. Neither she nor I seem to read anything more than a simple exchange of fact on this point. You are the one who seems to be having the issue here. (with me explaining that she is counting the years based on greg's calendar.
Quote:As for the "faulty understanding", that's definitely your cult training talking. No one knows everything in every field, yet it is atheists who are challenged by theists on every piece of knowledge (we must be biologists and physicists and mathematicians and historians and sociologists all at once, just to answer all the "well how did ____, then!?!" questions thrown our way) because you cultists are uncomfortable with anyone who rejects your pre-digested dogmas.
Yeah, I think your confused on that one.
It's the theist who has to know 10x's what the average atheist knows and can recite most if not all of it from memory including references in a real world encounter. Here at least the playing field is level, in that we all have access to the same interwebs. Which means if your facts are off it is because of your own intelectual laziness!! or worse yet intellectual dishonesty!
I am not a very knowledge person I simply vet Everything! after almost 9 years of this the common stuff sticks, but everything else I might have a key word or two to look things up.. The problem with 'smart people' they truly believe that they are... (smart) which makes them fools.
This is what I meant at being surprised at what some of you know, and floored at what you all don't.
Quote:Some of your dogmas may in fact be correct... but when it comes to actual history, keep in mind we endlessly deal with those who don't even understand how/why DNA proves we're cousins to the chimpanzees, let alone the rest of the human origins story. Why? Because they prefer a "magic-man-from-dirt-in-the-garden" myth. And that's just one type!But again why is this a problem? Unless your whole arsenal of arguments center around cliche' that can only speak to the 'first year sunday school teacher.'
If someone like GC or Huggy comes at you with names and dates, and proves his position will you/can you only respond in stereotypes?
Quote:To reduce the irony, try actually listening to people who tell you you're wrong with your atheist stereotypes, assigning false motivations (or assigning the motives of a few to the whole, when it does not represent even the common thinking among us, let alone a definitive trait), and start looking at what you consider your evidence in light of the actual objections we present to you. You have a habit of answering with some form of "Well that's what the Bible says, so..." (unless what the Bible says is uncomfortable for you, in which case you ignore it or try to tell us some far-fetched alternate explanation despite what we can see plainly with our eyes, and mumble something along the lines of "spiritual discernment" or claim it's not True Christianity).lol... I was seriously thinking of cutting and pasting the above mess as my response to the 'above mess.'
(I feel the same way about you guys.)
Aside from the bible says so.. Replace it with 'science says so.' or a dawkins arguemnt says so.