(May 12, 2016 at 3:37 pm)Drich Wrote:(May 12, 2016 at 3:04 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: How typical of a preacher to threaten violence. No, you said that there were no "texts". (Literal quote: "surviving documents") There are a LOT of surviving documents that describe religions thousands of years earlier than xtianity. Just because a hieroglyph isn't passed around today in book form as an Egyptian "bible" does not mean that it was not a "text", and it does not mean that the stories it contained were not "sacred" to the people who wrote them.
Okay, just remember I gave you a chance:
Quote:I completely understand the argument. However there is a problem with it. The "text" that have been proven older than the bible do not lend themselves to the bible stories as promised. The texts that do, have no surviving manuscripts older than the bible. Meaning even IF that particular religion is older the writings of it could have been taken from the bible, not the other way around.
Your knowledge of archaeology, historical manuscripts, and ancient Egypt is stunningly underwhelming. You must be taking it from xtian apologetics websites or xtian radio preachers or . . . wikipedia, thinking that "earliest complete work" proves something. If you're insisting upon some "complete" bible, then you need to throw your King James version in the trash.
I've read some of those apologetics websites, where they crap their pants and deconstruct language trying to disprove that the Osiris myth, for example, influenced xtianity. It's hilarious and sad at the same time - the complete lack of scholarship or intellectual integrity displayed by these people who are desperate to prove that their fantasies are true.
The "dying and rising god" theme was prevalent in many cultures in the Middle East long before a ragtag contentious group split off from Canaanite tribes. It's terribly easy to prove - - and to do so by the remaining writings, some from thousands of years before Jeebus. And the stories are extremely similar - - more importantly, the concept is similar. People trying to disprove them nitpick at the details - - they seem to think they can prove the forest doesn't exist because all of the trees aren't the same type.
"In the ancient world there was a very widespread belief in the sufferings and deaths of gods as being beneficial to man. Adonis, Attis, Dionysos, Herakles, Mithra, Osiris, and other deities, were all saviour-gods whose deaths were regarded as sacrifices made on behalf of mankind; and it is to be noticed that in almost every case there is clear evidence that the god sacrificed himself to himself."
Sir Arthur Weigall, The Paganism in Our Christianity
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