RE: Someone stole the body!
May 24, 2016 at 10:56 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2016 at 10:57 pm by Jehanne.)
(May 24, 2016 at 8:51 pm)Godschild Wrote:(May 24, 2016 at 9:27 am)Jehanne Wrote: This is just absolutely false, pitiful nonsense. There is NO evidence that anyone was martyred by the Romans for just professing the newly formed Christian faith. Other than the tale of James in Acts, which was written near the end of the first century, there is no documented evidence that the Romans persecuted Christians during the first century, other than Nero, who did persecute them in Rome around 64 AD. But, other than that rare exception, none of the disciples were martyred for the Christian faith; those tales do not come into print until well until the second century.
The nonsense belongs to you and you have admitted this in this very post. You start off saying and I quote "NO evidence", then you go on to confirm that Christians were killed by Nero, and if you do not think that the Christians of the day didn't consider them martyrs then why did Christianity spread so rapidly. Use your reasoning, think about it. Do you have proof that the apostles weren't killed for their beliefs, because they did not go around breaking Roman law.
GC
Roman was a political empire, not a religious one; that bullshit did not come into being under after the reign of Constantine. The Romans respected burial places, which allowed the early Christians to meet at the catacombs in peace. Outside of a few isolated areas, persecution of Christians was a rarity. Usually, individuals were put to death out of obstinacy to the State and not for professing what many Roman intellectuals felt was just another dumb religion on the scene whose proponents, at least in the beginning, all believed in a flat Earth. (See Saint Irenaeus' justification for the "Four Gospels" in the late second century.) As for the so-called 12 disciples of Jesus, scholars know little about their fate, including, that of Paul, although, with Paul, there is some evidence that he was martyred in Rome; however, he was such a loon to begin with that the Roman authorities, after Nero's insanity, may have judged him a threat to the Empire and simply have decided to get rid of him.