(May 25, 2016 at 12:58 pm)Godschild Wrote:(May 24, 2016 at 10:56 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Roman was a political empire, not a religious one; that bullshit did not come into being under after the reign of Constantine. The Romans respected burial places, which allowed the early Christians to meet at the catacombs in peace. Outside of a few isolated areas, persecution of Christians was a rarity. Usually, individuals were put to death out of obstinacy to the State and not for professing what many Roman intellectuals felt was just another dumb religion on the scene whose proponents, at least in the beginning, all believed in a flat Earth. (See Saint Irenaeus' justification for the "Four Gospels" in the late second century.) As for the so-called 12 disciples of Jesus, scholars know little about their fate, including, that of Paul, although, with Paul, there is some evidence that he was martyred in Rome; however, he was such a loon to begin with that the Roman authorities, after Nero's insanity, may have judged him a threat to the Empire and simply have decided to get rid of him.
You dodged my questions to you, why? Yep, Romans respected burial sites by tossing their victims into pits to rot, now that sounds respectful to me. Tell me how is it you can take a stand for a brutal Roman Empire and yet dismiss the peaceful Christians who were causing no problems. They believed in the things Jesus taught them and one was to obey the laws of the land and be good citizens, kind to all others and no one can rightly fault you. Even though they could not be rightly faulted they were killed, why, for their belief, seems as smart as you are you could figure this out.
GC
I would encourage you to listen to a recent presentation by Professor Bart Ehrman, who makes an excellent argument that Jesus was tossed into a common burial bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bnL-QZWNdg
The empty tomb is not an ironclad fact of history.